Tennis...

[SwissVan]

adjust that number a bit higher

 

 

1998: Karsten Braasch vs. the Williams sisters[edit]

Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open^[52] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager".^[53][52]

The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,^[54] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two shandies. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.^[55] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance". He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun".^[56] Braasch said the big difference was that men can chase down shots much easier, and that men put spin on the ball that the women can't handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.^[52]

At last something interesting out of this latest topic

Well done ???? ✅ for you

[Shebeen]

Maybe fact check your facts 

 

Wimbledon

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/more-tv-viewers-watch-wimbledon-womens-final-featuring-serena-williams-than-the-mens-3jcsdn98p

 

US Open

 

http://fortune.com/2018/09/11/serena-williams-carlos-ramos/

 

 

Hate Serena all you want, but she attracts the viewers

 

 

 

I have always found shakespeare stories to be utterly boring so maybe its a good comparison

 

2 okes that can basically only serve well and lack the ability to break the other's serve - borefest imo and Im not the only one on crack

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5952483/John-Isners-Wimbledon-semi-final-against-Kevin-Anderson-breaks-records-fans-arent-impressed.html

 

http://mystylenews.com/world-news/tennis-fans-bored-lengthy-isner-anderson-semi-final-wimbledon/

 

But yes, wheter something is boring or not is just an opinion, happy for you if you found it exciting.

ha ha, you are on CRACK!!

 

the first link you posted.did you read it?

First time in 13 YEARS women's final had more viewers than men's.

so 12 times out of 13 the men were ahead.

and the 13th time the men's final clashed with the WORLD CUP FINAL. you know that thing is the most watched sports event in four years? despite that being on people still watched the men's tennis!

 

Women's tennis is KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK boring. Off the top of your head, name a Serena match that was memorable...in ten years time I will be able to give you 5 federer/nadal classics and history will only remember the one where serena was a spoilt child for losing.

[Skubarra]

ha ha, you are on CRACK!!

 

the first link you posted.did you read it?

First time in 13 YEARS women's final had more viewers than men's.

so 12 times out of 13 the men were ahead.

and the 13th time the men's final clashed with the WORLD CUP FINAL. you know that thing is the most watched sports event in four years? despite that being on people still watched the men's tennis!

 

Women's tennis is KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK boring. Off the top of your head, name a Serena match that was memorable...in ten years time I will be able to give you 5 federer/nadal classics and history will only remember the one where serena was a spoilt child for losing.

 

I was merely pointing out with evidence that there are exceptions to your "facts" and the best you can do is throw insults. I don't recall another WC soccer final on the US open, what is your excuse there? And for the French and Aussie opens the viewership figures were fairly similar.

 

I don't think the gap is as massive as you believe it to be.

Edited September 18, 2018 by Skubarra

[Shebeen]

I was merely pointing out with evidence that there are exceptions to your "facts" and the best you can do is throw insults. I don't recall another WC soccer final on the US open, what is your excuse there? And for the French and Aussie opens the viewership figures were fairly similar.

 

I don't think the gap is as massive as you believe it to be.

 

 

ok, no more insults.

I think quoting US viewership will show more people watching two US citizens (Osaka has dal jap/us and has lived in the states since the age of 3) than a serbian vs an argentine the next day.

 

I could probably go and find buenos aires TV figures to say that the men's final had way more interest.

or you can go search any Top10 list of greatest finals.

or you can just watch two finals

or you could check the first post in this thread

 

My opinion is that the women's game is generally boring as hell, and I can back that up with some subjective and real facts. 

 

Serena, the greatest female player of all time. but definitely not the most memorable. Quick recap, she's played in 31 Grandslam finals, winning 23. Of these, about 3/4 have been straight sets, and less than 10% of sets have even gone to a tie break. So in short, boring one sided affairs.

 

 

[Vetplant]

 

My opinion is that the women's game is generally boring as hell, and I can back that up with some subjective and real facts. 

I heard a discussion with Africa Check on one of the Talk shows and they made a very interesting point in that they can't adjudicate on an argument, but only on the facts used in the argument and whether the facts were true.

 

They used BEE as an example where they had to check an article where one journalist made the argument that BEE has way too little benefit to the Black people in SA. They found that some of his facts were wrong and some of his facts were right, but they couldn't make a final finding on the argument.

 

Then later they had to fact check another article which stated that BEE had massive benefit to Black people and thus it has run it's course and should be done away with. Again they found some facts were wrong and some were right, but they couldn't pass judgement on the final argument in the article.

 

So yes, it is entirely normal for one to go and find facts that supports your argument. And in this wonderfully weird world of ours there is so much grey between the BLACK and WHITE side of things that most arguments can be made and weirdly enough they could all be somewhat correct and somewhat incorrect.

Edited September 18, 2018 by Rookie85

[Robbie Stewart]

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Edited September 18, 2018 by Robbie Stewart

[Shebeen]

I heard a discussion with Africa Check on one of the Talk shows and they made a very interesting point in that they can't adjudicate on an argument, but only on the facts used in the argument and whether the facts were true.

 

They used BEE as an example where they had to check an article where one journalist made the argument that BEE has way too little benefit to the Black people in SA. They found that some of his facts were wrong and some of his facts were right, but they couldn't make a final finding on the argument.

 

Then later they had to fact check another article which stated that BEE had massive benefit to Black people and thus it has run it's course and should be done away with. Again they found some facts were wrong and some were right, but they couldn't pass judgement on the final argument in the article.

 

So yes, it is entirely normal for one to go and find facts that supports your argument. And in this wonderfully weird world of ours there is so much grey between the BLACK and WHITE side of things that most arguments can be made and weirdly enough they could all be somewhat correct and somewhat incorrect.

I can totally agree with this.

The fact that i find women's tennis totally boring means that I don't watch much of it, so I admit to being a bit out of touch there. BUT let's be honest, from chris evert to gabriela sabattini to steffi to kournikova to ivanavic to sharapova to bouchard etc etc for years there are a lot of people who are not watching for the serve and volley.

 

 

what I do know for FACT is that there is nothing more beautiful in this world than a Federer backhand

 

Edited September 18, 2018 by dekker

[Skubarra]

ok, no more insults.

I think quoting US viewership will show more people watching two US citizens (Osaka has dal jap/us and has lived in the states since the age of 3) than a serbian vs an argentine the next day.

 

I could probably go and find buenos aires TV figures to say that the men's final had way more interest.

or you can go search any Top10 list of greatest finals.

or you can just watch two finals

or you could check the first post in this thread

 

My opinion is that the women's game is generally boring as hell, and I can back that up with some subjective and real facts. 

 

Fair enough, but tbh I think we got sidetracked into another discussion. 

 

My original point was really on Longdonkeys post that I don't think making games longer would necessarily make women's tennis more interesting. Think 3 sets are fine for most games.

[Vetplant]

 

 

 

what I do know for FACT is that there is nothing more beautiful in this world than a Federer backhand

 

I see your Federer-Backhand

 

I raise you a Nadal-running-passing-shot-forehand

[Vetplant]

This table tells an astonishing story.

 

62 Majors since Jan 2004... in 15 years, only 10 of those 62 have been won by someone other than the trio of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

 

All 3 are playing in the Semi's of Wimbledon today, which doesn't bode well for Bautista Agut 

 

 

[Shebeen]

This table tells an astonishing story.

 

62 Majors since Jan 2004... in 15 years, only 10 of those 62 have been won by someone other than the trio of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

 

All 3 are playing in the Semi's of Wimbledon today, which doesn't bode well for Bautista Agut 

i don't see nadal and fed lasting much more than 18 months longer.

Djokovic could keep going for a while still, and might just DOMINATE for a few years if he can keep interested.

he could end up well in front in terms of Slams.

[Vetplant]

Tight first set settled in a tie - breaker.

 

This is progressing towards another epic, too bad it isn't the final.

[Gen]

And that is why they are the best to ever play the game..

 

What a match, all we can do is say thank you that we have been treated once again.

[WrightJnr]

https://youtu.be/M8a0PFleKm4

 

Saw this a few minutes ago. Wow.

[Stretch]

https://youtu.be/M8a0PFleKm4

 

Saw this a few minutes ago. Wow.

Wow... Talk about over reacting. 99/100 times that would have bounced off the back wall and nothing would have been said or done. You could clearly see that there was no malice or intent

 

Novac certainly getting himself in the papers for the wrong reasons lately though

[Bateleur1]

Read about it in the paper this morning.  Now seeing the video, I was amazed that he did not even hit the ball as hard.  Just bad luck.  Zverev stated it well.  Had the ball gone anywhere else it would at worst have been a fine.