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Buy a Super auto - won't be top class, but will be a) quick, b) easy and c) more than good enough with a little tweaking - then if it grabs your interest, go play on Mr Potgieters new toy and see if it still keeps you interested... Despite having a few machines at home, my wife won't use them as they are too much hassle, so she sticks to the super auto in the kitchen.... and she is happy with that, unless I am making it for her.... in which case she gets fussy sometimes, especially if her friends are around...

What are you referring to here?

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What are you referring to here?

They have adjustable brew temperatures and grind fineness, as well as dose adjustability - takes a bit of fiddling... BUT A WHOLE LOT LESS than on a real espresso machine.... which is an ongoing fiddle.... an endless search for perfection.... :)

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Wow, that's heavy, have you looked at the Oscar? I'm very happy with mine, and paired with a solid grinder, I don't think you can go wrong, especially from a value for money point of view.

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You can get the Z9 for that... just.... :) got and see them - near kaya sands.

I know exactly where that is my mate used to build racing cars next door for regent racing

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So u saying for R30k I can get a semi decent maker...???

 

.......but a simpler route that will rustle some feathers (and pistons)....

 

Plain old HART kettle......with Kenna Coffeelets (2-4 bags)......bring to a boil, turn down heat and let it simmer..........Bosveldboerekapitaalmetoemf......

 

Sommer net lekker......cheap-cheap.

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I just want to support V12man on the freezing issue. I get two or three kilos of beans roasted to my specifications and then I divide them into 250g batches, put them in ziploc bags, push out as much air as I can (squeezing the bags between two cushions) and freeze them.

 

When I defrost them (haven't found a time limit yet) I don't open the bag until it's at room temperature, so that condensation doesn't form on the beans. After defrosting I find the beans make as much crema, and taste as good, as the freshly roasted beans. The quality falls off quite quickly - maybe a little quicker than the never-frozen bean - but I get through 250g in about five days, so it's not an issue.

 

I do the same with caffeinated and decaf, and I've been doing it for years. I know the wisdom is/was that you shouldn't freeze beans, but there was a blind tasting published on one of the coffee websites four or five years ago, which clearly demonstrated that the tasters couldn't tell the difference between freshly roasted and freshly defrosted beans, although they had no problem identifying week-old beans, IIRC.

 

Brian Fantana mentioned that he found same-day-roasted beans had a bigger kick - and this is also my experience. In Ethiopia they roast the bean as part of the coffee-making ceremony, and the coffee is wicked! I made the mistake of having two cups one morning, and I didn't sleep for 48 hours. The only thing is, if you try to espress coffee using same-day beans, you get all crema and very little coffee. Tastes wonderful, though.

 

IMHO, of all the factors that go into a great cup of coffee, the absolute top of the pyramid is freshly roasted beans, closely followed by the quality of the water and milk (if you use milk - I don't). For my money, it's more important that a bean is freshly roasted than whether it comes from Ethiopia or Port Shepstone. I would much rather push a freshly roasted (and freshly ground, of course) bean through my Aeropress, than a supermarket bean through my espresso machine.

 

But I know lots of people who don't agree, and who prefer pod-coffee, made with water that reeks of chlorine and old pipes, topped with a wad of milk froth that looks like a bathroom sponge, as long as it's scalding hot and takes 1 minute to make. Or stewed railway coffee. Or (shudder) instant. It's all good.

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.......but a simpler route that will rustle some feathers (and pistons)....

 

Plain old HART kettle......with Kenna Coffeelets (2-4 bags)......bring to a boil, turn down heat and let it simmer..........Bosveldboerekapitaalmetoemf......

 

Sommer net lekker......cheap-cheap.

I have a dinky toy bialetti - 1 cup.... (that's 1 espresso cup worth) that I use for guests like you.... :) I put rooibos tea in it... (NOTE - I do not like rooibos tea.... rather drink whiskey...)

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