Coffee machine

[Meezo]

I've heard that term but what exactly is doser vs doserless?

"The doser version allows the ground coffee to end up in a compartment called the doser, whereas thedoserless version allows the ground coffee to go directly into the portafilter (filter handle). The advantages of the Rancilio Rocky doser model are, ... Less static - the doser allows less static of coffee grinds."

 

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[Meezo]

Doser grinder = Coffee is ground and dispensed into a container with segments. To get the coffee into your portafilter you pull a lever which dispenses about 7-8 grams of grounds at a time.

 

Doserless grinder = Coffee is ground and dispensed directly into the portafilter.

 

The grinder on the left is a doser grinder, the one on the right is doserless.

 

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[Meezo]

My setup

 

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[Skylark]

Thanks for the explanation guys, with the doserless do you just grind until you are happy the portafilter is as fill as you want it or can you tell the machine to grind say 8g/1 shot/2 shot?

[Cafe Racer]

Just a FYI at 5grams per capsule at approx R5 each that equates to R1000 per kg of coffee and then you married to the capsule. I say bite the bullet buy a bean to cup machine and chop and change coffee as you like, you can pick up a decent bag for R180 no problem woolies dark roast comes to mind  

[the nerd]

Thanks for the explanation guys, with the doserless do you just grind until you are happy the portafilter is as fill as you want it or can you tell the machine to grind say 8g/1 shot/2 shot?

 

Depending on the grinder, some are grind on demand, some have time and some have by weight. 

[the nerd]

Just a FYI at 5grams per capsule at approx R5 each that equates to R1000 per kg of coffee and then you married to the capsule. I say bite the bullet buy a bean to cup machine and chop and change coffee as you like, you can pick up a decent bag for R180 no problem woolies dark roast comes to mind

 

Have you read this thread? 

[Skylark]

Just a FYI at 5grams per capsule at approx R5 each that equates to R1000 per kg of coffee and then you married to the capsule. I say bite the bullet buy a bean to cup machine and chop and change coffee as you like, you can pick up a decent bag for R180 no problem woolies dark roast comes to mind

I think most people on this thread DIY rather than capsule but that sum does put the cost into perspective!!

 

R1000 for 1kg of stale grounds :eek:

 

My little eBay cheapie ceramic burr grinder properly opened my eyes to the value of freshly ground, ain't nothing that can compare, the grinder needed a little fiddling to get the burr to grind correctly centered but now working like a champ. 

Edited September 26, 2017 by Skylark

[V12man]

Thanks for the explanation guys, with the doserless do you just grind until you are happy the portafilter is as fill as you want it or can you tell the machine to grind say 8g/1 shot/2 shot?

Depends on the grinder - mostly they have timers, but a few actually can weigh grinds.

[the nerd]

Been in Kroonstad all week, coffee was scarce!

 

So happy to be home! 

 

[101SCC]

Anybody who really wants to understand coffee from the bean, its starts here;

 

http://www.bqlive.co.uk/london-the-south/2017/10/03/news/wake-up-and-smell-the-price-of-coffee-27939/

[NateChat]

Anybody who really wants to understand coffee from the bean, its starts here;

 

http://www.bqlive.co.uk/london-the-south/2017/10/03/news/wake-up-and-smell-the-price-of-coffee-27939/

Good read, thanks for sharing.

[NateChat]

My setup

 

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Those Oscars are great machines. I had one as well.

[MarcBurger]

A quick opinion for a not-so-purist coffee lover:

I'm looking to get a bean to mug machine that I can turn beans into a decent cappuccino at the press of a button (also on a fair budget)

 

Looking at the Delonghi ESAM4500 (R8200) vs the Saeco 3100 (R5700).

 

Any opinions or alternatives would be appreciated.

 

[michaelbiker]

I have the exact same Delonghi. It makes amazing coffee, but don't bother with those style of attached frother units, they make really terrible froth and a huge mess. They also do the froth first and then the coffee, which means you get a whole bunch of froth at the top and all the coffee at the bottom. They are a huge mission to clean too. Just terrible...

 

I use a Bialetti Tutto Crema to make the froth. Perfect everytime, and really low tech.

 

I highly recommend the Bean There coffee beans. You will need to play with the timing and the grind to get what you like, so be patient. Once it's setup, there is really no easier way to make a perfect cup of coffee in just a few minutes.

[coppi]

I have the exact same Delonghi. It makes amazing coffee, but don't bother with those style of attached frother units, they make really terrible froth and a huge mess. They also do the froth first and then the coffee, which means you get a whole bunch of froth at the top and all the coffee at the bottom. They are a huge mission to clean too. Just terrible...

 

I use a Bialetti Tutto Crema to make the froth. Perfect everytime, and really low tech.

 

I highly recommend the Bean There coffee beans. You will need to play with the timing and the grind to get what you like, so be patient. Once it's setup, there is really no easier way to make a perfect cup of coffee in just a few minutes.

So if it makes the coffee first and then the froth you get the same thing