PhilipV Posted October 1, 2018 Share Pondering if I need to add shin guards to the knee guards order...Skip the shiny guards, but for fast progression why not go all-in with skills classes?Between that and the bunny-hop/Wheelie drills you plan to do you'll be flying down OG at Helderberg on Nov time. Reme Le Hane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted October 1, 2018 Share Pricing on ion shoes?From the prices of their clipless version they are priced even higher than Five Ten. I speak under correction though because I have not seen what their flats cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted October 1, 2018 Share From the prices of their clipless version they are priced even higher than Five Ten. I speak under correction though because I have not seen what their flats cost. I googled upside down, with the exceptions of a few 510s on sale, the 2f0 and 5ten are pretty much the same price give or take. I could only find 1 online store that listed Ion and they only carried the 1 clipless shoe. Grease_Monkey and J∆kk∆ls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J∆kk∆ls Posted October 1, 2018 Share Skater shoes work well too so if you have an old pair of vans or converse to use in the interim that would work better than stiff cycling shoes. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOCO4360 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Skater shoes work well too so if you have an old pair of vans or converse to use in the interim that would work better than stiff cycling shoes. I second this, I use a pair of old DC shoes, the chunky skate ones and they work as well as 5Tens. Boardriders sells them here for around R 1200.00 new (half the price of 5Ten shoes)  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted October 1, 2018 Share I second this, I use a pair of old DC shoes, the chunky skate ones and they work as well as 5Tens. Boardriders sells them here for around R 1200.00 new (half the price of 5Ten shoes)   People who have never ridden a decent pair of flat shoes love saying this. It is just not true.Try a proper 5/10 and then tell me it again. Trundle round the neighbourhood in skate shoes maybe but its day and night the grip levels between these shoes........ Grease_Monkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted October 1, 2018 Share People who have never ridden a decent pair of flat shoes love saying this. It is just not true.Try a proper 5/10 and then tell me it again. Trundle round the neighbourhood in skate shoes maybe but its day and night the grip levels between these shoes........ At the end of the day, if you talking R1200 for a pair of skater shoes that "work well" then why not just bother spending the extra R800 on a pair of proper purpose designed shoes. MTB shoes will be warrantied against MTB related issues, I ride them for a month and the soles gone they will give me a new pair, skate shop will tell me to f*ck off. Sure, that is unlikely to happen, but I rather spend an extra R800 and know I am buying something for the correct purpose, will be covered if something does go wrong when used for the intended purpose than risk throwing away 1200 bucks on something apparently almost as good. I spent 40k on a bike, pedals are over a grand, my saddle is also over a grand, why start counting pennies on the foot ware. You spend a small fortune getting your bike perfect for you and then all of a sudden the shoes are too expensive. If you have shoes lying around that work, sure, but if you actively leave the house to go spend money then you may as well spend that money on the correct thing ChrisF, Grease_Monkey and Steven Knoetze (sk27) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted October 1, 2018 Share At the end of the day, if you talking R1200 for a pair of skater shoes that "work well" then why not just bother spending the extra R800 on a pair of proper purpose designed shoes. MTB shoes will be warrantied against MTB related issues, I ride them for a month and the soles gone they will give me a new pair, skate shop will tell me to f*ck off. Sure, that is unlikely to happen, but I rather spend an extra R800 and know I am buying something for the correct purpose, will be covered if something does go wrong when used for the intended purpose than risk throwing away 1200 bucks on something apparently almost as good. I spent 40k on a bike, pedals are over a grand, my saddle is also over a grand, why start counting pennies on the foot ware. You spend a small fortune getting your bike perfect for you and then all of a sudden the shoes are too expensive. If you have shoes lying around that work, sure, but if you actively leave the house to go spend money then you may as well spend that money on the correct thing Agreed, footwear is something that goes unnoticed when it is right, but can make a day out on the bike hell if it is wrong. I have bought cheap clipless XC shoes, and I have bought an expensive pair of Spaz shoes - the one makes my feet numb after an hout and flexes under power, the other has my feet feeling fresh after a 5/6hour ride - I'll let you guess which does what. Same goes for flats - I have tried skating shoes - results were cramping feet, zero grip, and lots and lots of flex when pedalling, not to mention clearly damaged shoes - I gave up on the idea of flats after one ride. I have recently started using Five Tens, and it is a day and night difference - amazing grip, good pedalling, and comfy feet. I would go as far as to say that riding with skate shoes can't even be compared to riding with proper flats intended for mtb.  Sure, you don't have to buy Five Tens, but Spaz make a reasonably priced (compared to other mtb brands) flat shoe - and if you are comparing 2k to the price of some skate shoes then it is not much more - besides you will go through a couple pairs of skate shoes while you go through one pair of Spaz/Five Tens - so in the long run it's cheaper to just buy proper shoes from the start - that is of course if you are ready to commit to flat pedals. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Steven Knoetze (sk27) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s14phoenix Posted October 1, 2018 Share I don't think I have ever posted here but thought I would share... Finally scratched an itch I had for a while... I applied ointment liberally... Bontrager Ballista MIPS   RossW, Reme Le Hane, gummibear and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted October 1, 2018 Share Agreed, footwear is something that goes unnoticed when it is right, but can make a day out on the bike hell if it is wrong. I have bought cheap clipless XC shoes, and I have bought an expensive pair of Spaz shoes - the one makes my feet numb after an hout and flexes under power, the other has my feet feeling fresh after a 5/6hour ride - I'll let you guess which does what. Same goes for flats - I have tried skating shoes - results were cramping feet, zero grip, and lots and lots of flex when pedalling, not to mention clearly damaged shoes - I gave up on the idea of flats after one ride. I have recently started using Five Tens, and it is a day and night difference - amazing grip, good pedalling, and comfy feet. I would go as far as to say that riding with skate shoes can't even be compared to riding with proper flats intended for mtb.  Sure, you don't have to buy Five Tens, but Spaz make a reasonably priced (compared to other mtb brands) flat shoe - and if you are comparing 2k to the price of some skate shoes then it is not much more - besides you will go through a couple pairs of skate shoes while you go through one pair of Spaz/Five Tens - so in the long run it's cheaper to just buy proper shoes from the start - that is of course if you are ready to commit to flat pedals. One of my favourite related quotes was from Dody on GMBN, "Only a rich man buys cheap tools", same applies for gear. As we say in SA "Goed koop goed koop, is duur koop". Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Steven Knoetze (sk27) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 1, 2018 Share Pricing on ion shoes?  From the prices of their clipless version they are priced even higher than Five Ten. I speak under correction though because I have not seen what their flats cost.  I googled upside down, with the exceptions of a few 510s on sale, the 2f0 and 5ten are pretty much the same price give or take. I could only find 1 online store that listed Ion and they only carried the 1 clipless shoe.They have 2 versions, both sub 2k. I went to the brand stable in Blouberg to try em on but they didn't fit my feet (high instep and wide forefoot) 2FO's are R 2,100 or so. Their SKITCH shoes are R 1,600 but don't have as much protection on the toe box.  Cheapest 5-10's I've found are the freerider pro @ Pinned for R 2,100 or so but I can't fit in them anymore due to the different sizing since Adidas took over. PhilipV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted October 1, 2018 Share They have 2 versions, both sub 2k. I went to the brand stable in Blouberg to try em on but they didn't fit my feet (high instep and wide forefoot)Â 2FO's are R 2,100 or so. Their SKITCH shoes are R 1,600 but don't have as much protection on the toe box. Â Cheapest 5-10's I've found are the freerider pro @ Pinned for R 2,100 or so but I can't fit in them anymore due to the different sizing since Adidas took over.I stand corrected then. Sub 2k is awesome for a pair of proper mtb shoes! Even more of an argument to invest in a proper pair of mtb shoes Steven Knoetze (sk27) and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twaatie Posted October 1, 2018 Share They have 2 versions, both sub 2k. I went to the brand stable in Blouberg to try em on but they didn't fit my feet (high instep and wide forefoot) 2FO's are R 2,100 or so. Their SKITCH shoes are R 1,600 but don't have as much protection on the toe box.  Cheapest 5-10's I've found are the freerider pro @ Pinned for R 2,100 or so but I can't fit in them anymore due to the different sizing since Adidas took over.Can you buy direct from brand stable ? Also anyone have a pair of Bontrager Flatline Edited October 1, 2018 by Twaatie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted October 1, 2018 Share They have 2 versions, both sub 2k. I went to the brand stable in Blouberg to try em on but they didn't fit my feet (high instep and wide forefoot) 2FO's are R 2,100 or so. Their SKITCH shoes are R 1,600 but don't have as much protection on the toe box.  Cheapest 5-10's I've found are the freerider pro @ Pinned for R 2,100 or so but I can't fit in them anymore due to the different sizing since Adidas took over. RRP on 2FO's is 2K according to Spaz www https://www.specialized.com/za/en/2fo-flat-2-0-mountain-bike-shoes/p/134052?color=228319-134052 Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanievb Posted October 1, 2018 Share Something simple    Wheels going in for warranty replacement so I thought I'd strip the frame for a spit n polish. Good thing I did. Top headset bearing ISM. note to self: check assembly after someone else worked on your bike..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted October 1, 2018 Share Can you buy direct from brand stable ? Also anyone have a pair of Bontrager Flatlineyes, they have a store in Blouberg, behind the service station / milky lane on the corner. Twaatie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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