WHO REALLY WON THE 2012 EPIC ?

[Gerhardc]

WHO REALLY WON THE 2012 EPIC ?

 

 

The short and sweet answer really is ,Kevin Vermaak.

 

ha-ha-ha!! good one!

[Gerhardc]

Yup, hence the statement to the media from the Epic organisers.

 

.....and what did the statement say? if I may ask?

[D-Mike]

Dude your hijacking analogy is dumb, we talking about rules in sport , not survival, grow up and try understand whats being debated. And again you state "you belive to be a health issue" its not for you to belive or not belive anything, the rules state clearly that any outside assistance is an hour penalty thats the rules . Now i dont care if you find the rules are rules are dumb, thems the rules mate and thats the way the game is played if you dont like them rules go play something else.

Well that is why there is race organisers to evaluate, implement and enforce the rules. Rules serve a general purpose, which is usually along the lines of ensuring fair competition and that one person or another is not unfairly advantaged or disadvantaged. If the race organisers take the view that Burry was not unfairly advantaged, they can make that ruling.

 

The only critique that could possibly be given then, is that their was not sufficient transparency regarding the issue. Burry and Christoph is not at fault here, but the integrity of the race organisers are in question.

 

You are right what I believe is irrelevant, but since this is a forum, I may give my opinion. What is important on this issue is the ruling of the race organisers. If you don't like the way they implement the rules, write an email and complain.

[rouxtjie]

The crux for me isn't that burry took the jacket but that it's alleged 360Life's manager tried to afford his riders the same luxury, but was refused...wonder what the facts are there

[Tumbleweed]

Well that is why there is race organisers to evaluate, implement and enforce the rules. Rules serve a general purpose, which is usually along the lines of ensuring fair competition and that one person or another is not unfairly advantaged or disadvantaged. If the race organisers take the view that Burry was not unfairly advantaged, they can make that ruling.

 

The only critique that could possibly be given then, is that their was not sufficient transparency regarding the issue. Burry and Christoph is not at fault here, but the integrity of the race organisers are in question.

 

You are right what I believe is irrelevant, but since this is a forum, I may give my opinion. What is important on this issue is the ruling of the race organisers. If you don't like the way they implement the rules, write an email and complain.

 

As I understand it, the matter was brought up by the UCI officials at a team manager meeting. No protest was received.

[Wyatt Earp]

As I understand it, the matter was brought up by the UCI officials at a team manager meeting. No protest was received.

Good stuff, I just love more hearsay.

[jcmeyerSS]

The crux for me isn't that burry took the jacket but that it's alleged 360Life's manager tried to afford his riders the same luxury, but was refused...wonder what the facts are there

Ditto

[Danger Dassie]

Some issues are marginal and could go both ways. That's what race commisioners are for. Its no use of basing your comments on what some tjop at TREAD with a laptop and a spellchecker thinks. If this was a real issue, there would have been a proper press release about it at the time.

 

As opposed to a tjop with a keyboard and personal gripe on a forum?

[Tumbleweed]

Good stuff, I just love more hearsay.

 

That's from the media release.

[Wyatt Earp]

As opposed to a tjop with a keyboard and personal gripe on a forum?

I know it wasn't you, your spellchecker is bust

[Wyatt Earp]

That's from the media release.

Well ,if I could kindly ask for a link.

[Eugene Oppelt]

You are so wrong on this one

 

 

You cannot bend rules once you start that you head down a slippery slope. RULES ARE RULES. Its called integrity.

 

Same as me saying whats a small shortcut here orr there?? Nobody has the right to "bend" rules in any sport.

 

Cycling regulations are not hard and fast, StevieF.

The key word is "discretion".

 

I get your point about integrity. And agree.

The reality in cycling and other sports is that it is not clear-cut in extreme circumstances.

[Danger Dassie]

The crux for me isn't that burry took the jacket but that it's alleged 360Life's manager tried to afford his riders the same luxury, but was refused...wonder what the facts are there

 

In line with MichaelD's and Stevief's post, yeah agreed. Although imo, it could well have been an oversight during the mayhem on the day of that stage.

[Caerus]

All I would like to know now is what precedent will this set for any future rule breaking/ amending?

 

Where do you draw the line now?

[Eugene Oppelt]

In line with MichaelD's and Stevief's post, yeah agreed. Although imo, it could well have been an oversight during the mayhem on the day of that stage.

 

It sounds like it was hectic out there.

Check Tarmac's earlier post...

Fortunately, no lives were lost.

 

[Danger Dassie]

I know it wasn't you, your spellchecker is bust

 

That's cuz I are better wif eine camera buttons. Less of them than a keyboard...