WHO REALLY WON THE 2012 EPIC ?

[Danger Dassie]

It sounds like it was hectic out there.

Check Tarmac's earlier post...

Fortunately, no lives were lost.

 

 

It was, some of the scenes were like images from the Somme in WWI, just brightly clad MTBers.

No lives, just minds and bike bits.

[johnpat]

Cycling regulations are not hard and fast, StevieF. The key word is "discretion".

 

My understanding is laws are made to remove subjectivity from the equation. I hear what you say about discretion, but when you already have two sides of the same law being applied in the scenario at hand, discretion can't really form part of it.

 

A rain jacket, under those conditions, could've had a material influence on someone's performance; it was that horrible out there. You can't tell me those people suffering from hypothermia wouldn't have been better off were they insulated better.

May not have altered positions or times, but nobody is really in a position to judge permutation of what may or may not have happened if Burry didn't get that jacket. The suggestion that 360Life were denied this "luxury" is what I have a problem with. It's not the racers' fault; as per normal it's the organisers', and their reluctance to make tough decisions.

 

That being said, it would've been a massive pity for K&D to "steal" a victory like that, and I have massive respect for them not making a scene out of it. (They won the next day, didn't they? Perhaps more to that than it seems...)

[Tumbleweed]

Well ,if I could kindly ask for a link.

 

Don't think it was posted online. It's mentioned in the magazine.

[TNT1]

Bottom line, the race commissaire reserves the right to "bend" the rules at his discretion.

 

Kevin should have made public there and then what their decision was and perhaps there would not have been a hunt for sensationalism in print afterwards.

 

There you go. You'd think that would be the end of it, but not in hub-land...

[camerons]

I though the sport of mountain biking was the real winner !?!

[patches]

There you go. You'd think that would be the end of it, but not in hub-land...

 

I hope that's not the end of it... I had a bet going that this thread will reach 10 pages by the end of the day

[patches]

I though the sport of mountain biking was the real winner !?!

 

My mom says that everybody is a winner!

[TheV]

A bit of extra biased discussion going on here...

 

Clearly there are people making posts/comments based on either:

 

1. Their association with the Specialized brand (spotted some shop owners/suppliers/etc) obviously in favor of the "cover up"

2. Their association with Burry/Team (just as fans/supporters/etc) obviously in support, to be expected

3. Their association with the "losing team" (just as fans/supporters/etc) obviously in support, to be expected

4. Their association with the "Epic" body - obviously in support, to be expected

5. Some people who will always complain about everything/never happy, but to be expected

 

At the end of it, the rules are rules, if he took the jacket, i think it should have received a penalty....

 

If the rules we to be open to interpretation, they would have made provision for it specifically to say, you can take a jacket or toilet paper for example.

[TNT1]

I hope that's not the end of it... I had a bet going that this thread will reach 10 pages by the end of the day

 

Dude, we're on page 8 already. I'd go with 17pages by close of play, just depends when the personal attacks start, and if we allow the unapproved content into the final page count or not...

[rouxtjie]

I hope that's not the end of it... I had a bet going that this thread will reach 10 pages by the end of the day

boet it will get there in the next 10 minutes

 

I want part of this action, pm me your bookie

[patches]

boet it will get there in the next 10 minutes

 

I want part of this action, pm me your bookie

Dude, we're on page 8 already. I'd go with 17pages by close of play, just depends when the personal attacks start, and if we allow the unapproved content into the final page count or not...

 

I made tha call when the thread was only 1.5 pages long... I didn't want to aim too high and just be dissapointed if it gets taken down

[Christie]

All sports have got rules. In most cases, the rules are interpreted and applied by a referee or race officials.

In rugby, you can't enter a maul from the side, or handle the ball if you are off your feet. However, the way Bryce Lawrence refereed SA vs. Aus in the last WC seems to be in conflict these rules. There have been a lot of questions asked about how the rules were applied, but there was never any question about who won the match. Therefore, imo the question asked in the topic of this thread is easy to answer.

[Tumbleweed]

All sports have got rules. In most cases, the rules are interpreted and applied by a referee or race officials.

In rugby, you can't enter a maul from the side, or handle the ball if you are off your feet. However, the way Bryce Lawrence refereed SA vs. Aus in the last WC seems to be in conflict these rules. There have been a lot of questions asked about how the rules were applied, but there was never any question about who won the match. Therefore, imo the question asked in the topic of this thread is easy to answer.

 

In cycling, it would seem most transgressions are adjudged after the day's racing, etc. And discretion can be applied.

[Grebel]

I made tha call when the thread was only 1.5 pages long... I didn't want to aim too high and just be dissapointed if it gets taken down

 

Bump......

[jcmeyerSS]

 

 

It was, some of the scenes were like images from the Somme in WWI, just brightly clad MTBers.

No lives, just minds and bike bits.

I knew you were old but damn a WWI vet! Nice hahahahaha

[jcmeyerSS]

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