jcza Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I think you you go to an english pub you will find they use that term very much in the same fashion as could I have a beer. Lets go have a beer & check it out
Wyatt Earp Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Yeah, and there is the fact that the emergence of Team GB was built on one of the strictest doping and whereabouts policies in the world. I recall when Froomie just joined team Britain.We had a Christmas party, he calls me whilst I was on my way there telling me he has a problem.I ask what, he tells me he will be late, on the way there he had to go and meet with doping peeps, so he headed back home and came a bit later.He went to the coast for 5 days, had to go online and confirm what his exact whereabouts would be as well as informing them of his every move.Same when he went elsehwre. I think people are now just looking for spooks in the cupboards now that the L.A. embarrassment is winding down to soon fade in to obscurity. Edited October 31, 2012 by Dangle
Wyatt Earp Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Lets go have a beer & check it out Beer, any day.English pub, ek weet nie so lekker nie
hayleyearth Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Dont know if this has been posted already, but couldnt resist... I actually dont care if he doped or not....one STILL needs a crap load of talent and determination to go where he has gone.
jcza Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Beer, any day.English pub, ek weet nie so lekker nie Stem saam - ok any pub
'Dale Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I recall when Froomie just joined team Britain.We had a Christmas party, he calls me whilst I was on my way there telling me he has a problem.I ask what, he tells me he will be late, on the way there he had to go and meet with doping peeps, so he headed back home and came a bit later.He went to the coast for 5 days, had to go online and confirm what his exact whereabouts would be as well as informing them of his every move.Same when he went elsehwre. I think people are now just looking for spooks in the cupboards now that the L.A. embarrassment is winding down to soon fade in to obscurity. It's understandable, Dangle. Trust and confidence in the cycling heroes are way down.The credibility of anyone's results is in doubt. I do look forward to the 'new way'.It's coming through in names like Froome Dog, van Garderen, even ol' Evans, Wiggo, Sagan.I really hope their noses are clean.
HappyMartin Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Wiggins did drop a tremendous amount of weight when he made a serious attempt at tour riding. That is a documented fact. Funny thing is when LA came back from cancer he was a changed rider and when asked why said he had lost a lot of weight. This was looked at in some detail and in fact it was about as true as his claim to being the most tested athlete of all time. In other words an ascertainable lie. One thing he did do was to change his cadence. He went to a very high cadence. So high other riders could not emulate it. A high cadence has the effect of moving part of the work load from the muscles in the legs to the cardio vascular system. Makes a lot of sense to do this when you have chemically enhanced this system with EPO. Wiggins style has not really undergone any fundamental revisions since he moved onto the road. Not my favorite but he has always been a classy cyclist.
SwissVan Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) It's ok Dangle, no offence taken. I love good debate with folk that know more than me. However the questions around Wiggo is not a SA thing, it's a cycling thing. Or maybe I'm one of the bone idle w*nkers he was talking about? every single tour de france rider has amazing talent. far more than any of us could ever hope to achieve, even with drugs Suspicious with good reason History we are often told repeats itself and history has shown that most of those who stood on the TDF podium in the recent past doped. History also shows that its human nature to cheat, humans cheat in everything they do from cribbing at school exams to cheating in their marriages…. So yes it’s realistic and I expect every rider who reaches that level (TDF) knows they will be treated “suspiciously”That’s the nature of the beast and comes with the territory. WRT to Team Sky and certain riders improvements over the last few years, Sky are making all the right noises and actions in lieu of recent (US Postal / Armstrong) revelations, but then what option do they have, getting rid of certain people does not mean that those who remain wont carry onh the same. WRT to Sky and certain riders (Froome in particular) I hope it’s just silly suspicion and not a case of history repeating itself ala US Postal. Edited October 31, 2012 by SwissVan
'Dale Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 A bit extreme...uhm, very extreme... London - Stripped of his cycling medals over a doping scandal, disgraced US icon Lance Armstrong will suffer a fresh humiliation this weekend at the hands of an English town which will burn him in effigy. The nine metre steel-framed figure, dressed in a Tour de France leader's yellow jersey, will be torched on Saturday during the annual Guy Fawkes or Bonfire Night celebrations in Edenbridge in Kent, southeast England. Read more here:http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/Town-to-burn-effigy-of-Lance-Armstrong-20121031
HappyMartin Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 A bit extreme...uhm, very extreme... London - Stripped of his cycling medals over a doping scandal, disgraced US icon Lance Armstrong will suffer a fresh humiliation this weekend at the hands of an English town which will burn him in effigy. The nine metre steel-framed figure, dressed in a Tour de France leader's yellow jersey, will be torched on Saturday during the annual Guy Fawkes or Bonfire Night celebrations in Edenbridge in Kent, southeast England. Read more here:http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/Town-to-burn-effigy-of-Lance-Armstrong-20121031 Get a life, seriously.
Danger Dassie Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 A bit extreme...uhm, very extreme... London - Stripped of his cycling medals over a doping scandal, disgraced US icon Lance Armstrong will suffer a fresh humiliation this weekend at the hands of an English town which will burn him in effigy. The nine metre steel-framed figure, dressed in a Tour de France leader's yellow jersey, will be torched on Saturday during the annual Guy Fawkes or Bonfire Night celebrations in Edenbridge in Kent, southeast England. Read more here:http://www.sport24.c...strong-20121031 Ok now that's getting stupid! Said it before, will say it again. People getting far too caught up in the LA angle, driven by emotion.Luckily though the broader issue of anti doping in sport is being brought the fore now. Please close this Boooooring subject Then stop opening the thread, it's not that hard. Better than trying force censorship on those who are discussing the topic.
GoLefty!! Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 whats stupid is that the effigy was erected in the first place. How do you erect something with one ball?
Bianchisti Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Insurers ask Armstrong to repay millions http://www.supersport.com/cycling/international/news/121031/Insurers_ask_Armstrong_to_repay_millions
Tumbleweed Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Insurers ask Armstrong to repay millions http://www.superspor..._repay_millions The important point about that issue is this line:He won the case because the original contract between SCA and Tailwind Sports had no stipulations about doping.
Squier Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 The important point about that issue is this line:He won the case because the original contract between SCA and Tailwind Sports had no stipulations about doping. Yup, but the problem is that the contract stipulated that he had to be the official winner of the Tour, which he no longer is.
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