Tatt Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 50mm on 140 fork and 710 bars. Have 780 bars waiting to be fitted. .. Tom
Kevin Lei Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Received my X-Fusion Trace RC HLR and got it fitted to my OneTen29. Sweet ride.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg1_11.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg4_1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg1_12.jpg Hairy, LazyTrailRider, nickelass and 5 others 8
Lone_Ranger Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 What stem lengths are other 110 Pyga riders using? I'm riding more aggressive AM / Enduro style trails (previously I was riding more XC style trials) so am going to increase my fork travel to 140mm and was thinking of reducing my stem from 80mm to 45mm - 50mm ish and was wondering what others are generally running an how the bike handles with the 140mm and quicker steering.I'm running a 50mm stem with 785mm bar and loving it. Much better handling than any of my other bikes, which all had more XC type 90mm to 100mm stems. Next upgrade will be the 140mm fork.
Aggies Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I need to select between 70mm and 60mm Stem with a 35mm OD 780mm Handlebar, which one would you say, I must start with?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I need to select between 70mm and 60mm Stem with a 35mm OD 780mm Handlebar, which one would you say, I must start with?60.
CJG Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Thanks for all your help! Im looking at buying new and will be cheating by getting the bike shop to build up the bike. Im in Malawi at the moment, so will hopefully pick up the bike in mid July when Im there and be ready for a race that same week.
LazyTrailRider Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 60. With such a wide bar, definitely. Shameless plug, my ride is still available: https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/141465-pyga-110/
pedal_bob Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I had a 50mm stem on a 110 with a 140 pike and a 780 handlebar. It was awesome!!!! Thanks. I'll go with a 50mm and see how it feels. My bars are 710mm at the moment. How is the new bike working out for you? 50mm on 140 fork and 710 bars. Have 780 bars waiting to be fitted. .. Tom I'd be interested in hearing what you think of the change and whether it really makes any difference and what you feel is better or worse. I have a 710mm at the moment and will go to a 50mm stem. My only reservation with going wider on the bar is that some of the trails in the forests that I ride here are very narrow and my 710 bars only just clear between the trees so 780mm may be a problem.
RockCoach Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 Thanks. I'll go with a 50mm and see how it feels. My bars are 710mm at the moment. How is the new bike working out for you? I'd be interested in hearing what you think of the change and whether it really makes any difference and what you feel is better or worse. I have a 710mm at the moment and will go to a 50mm stem. My only reservation with going wider on the bar is that some of the trails in the forests that I ride here are very narrow and my 710 bars only just clear between the trees so 780mm may be a problem.The short answer is that short stem plus shortish bars will make the bike very twitchy. The short stem makes the handling and turning feel very direct and fast which is awesome. One of the reasons for the wider bars is that they slow down the steering just a little but more importantly, it takes the twitchiness away and replaces it with much more control. The next reason for going wider is that the short stem and short bars will make you feel cramped. Stem brings you closer, wide bars stretches you back out so your reach should be roughly the same as it was with long stem/narrow bars. The wide bar/short stem allows you better leverage for all obstacles, wheelies, bunnyhopping, cornering etc. Allows you to have a more central to rearward balance over the bike for riding steep descents instead of over the front (which only makes sense if you ride terrain where you need to be drafting in an aero position). Think of it as doing a push on the ground with arms close together vs wide apart. When you ride a bike over uneven terrain it's much easier to maintain control when a lot of lateral forces are pushing on the bars. Much the same way as your friend pushing you over while you doing a pushup. I ride 800 bars with 50mm stem (have broad shoulders ). I hardly ever have a problem with narrowness. But when I do I just lever or swim the bars through the gap at slower speed. Your trail builders need to catch a wake up and realise trail riders have gravitated to wider set up. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
pedal_bob Posted June 26, 2015 Posted June 26, 2015 It's funny that 710mm bars are now considered narrow or short-ish. My first bike had 640mm bars and that at the time seemed quite normal. When I built my Pyga in early 2013 710 was considered wide-ish. Now we're talking about 800s. As for the trail builders here, they deliberately keep the trails tight to make it more challenging. Not something I completely agree with mind you as I've had a few near misses where my bar has brushed the trees whilst zooming down the tight trail at 30km/h.
RockCoach Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Yep, the sport evolves. In the last couple of years there has been a bit of wide bar revolution around the world. I try to make trails I work on technically challenging in terms of steepness, rock gardens, drops, jumps - leaving a bit of space in fast sections in case a rider gets a section wrong.
Aggies Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Anyone with this type of frame? What have you found to be the best cable routing? Routing that will cause the least cable rub on the frame. It will be appreciated if you can take some detailed pics. I am only worried about the rear derailleur and rear brake. This frame now have option above and below the down tube.
cadenceblur Posted June 28, 2015 Posted June 28, 2015 Consider this. Hope the pics make sense. Aggies 1
Kevin Lei Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Some more photo from my ride yesterday. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg3_2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg1_18.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg4_2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg2_2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/lightning69/image.jpg2_3.jpg Skylark 1
RockCoach Posted June 29, 2015 Posted June 29, 2015 Some more photo from my ride yesterday. Looks awesome. The bike and the scenery... Are there decent enduro type trails in Malaysia?
Chavo Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Placed a more detailed post under Tech Q&A of my project. I designed and had a cover plate 3D printed for my Pyga OneTen to cover the frame mounting position where the FD used to be. Stoked with the outcome! awesme 1
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