EddieV Posted January 24, 2020 Share I designed a system like this 12 years ago. Basically a large elastic band in the down tube which 'winds' up on demand, either when freewheeling/descending or cruising on the flat (the percenatge parasitic loss is tiny). It can then be released either for a short burst, or when climbing. Like an elastic band powered propeller plane, just with more control. There is a small internal gear in the BB shell which distributes power to the crank. I did the exercise mostly as a fun project for commuting, rather than for cheating...It would still show up on any X rays anyhow. This is amazing ... I read up last night there is even a US patent out for a design like this ... Although it will be picked up by an X-ray, will it be picked up by a thermo or electromagnetic scanner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted January 24, 2020 Share This is amazing ... I read up last night there is even a US patent out for a design like this ... Although it will be picked up by an X-ray, will it be picked up by a thermo or electromagnetic scanner? Damn. Should have filed it...If I was going to use it to cheat I'd probably shield it from the x ray machine with a lining inside the down tube and BB (race bikes are light enough these days that the weight is just ballast to bring it up to UCI rules), and then I'd build in a sneaky water cooling system linked to the bidon to cut it's thermal signature..... If I thought that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane_Bosch Posted January 24, 2020 Share Lazy to actually do the hard work The way I understand it these drugs allow you to work harder because you recover quicker and therein lies the gain. Just squeezing a vial of EPO into your arm does fkol if you don't put in the work. That is my understanding of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted January 24, 2020 Share It may still be legal over the counter in Switzerland...find the right doctor to look after you there and you can have an expensive but legal experiment as long as you don't compete Are u sure?And you know this how????????????? There’s a reason I ask this....they tend to be very conservative in dishing out medication without a prescription.Buying over the counter stuff like headache pills or hay fever meds for example can lead to questions at chemists in switz... you can’t buy headache pills on a grocery store either....so I’m not sure what they gonna do when I ask for 500cc of epo or whatever the measurement is Edited January 24, 2020 by SwissVan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomark Posted January 24, 2020 Share Are u sure?And you know this how? There’s a reason I ask this....they tend to be very conservative in dishing out medication without a prescription.Buying over the counter stuff like headache pills or hay fever meds for example can lead to questions at chemists in switz... you can’t buy headache pills on a grocery store either....so I’m not sure what they gonna do when I ask for 500cc of epo or whatever the measurement is used to be, don't know about now but take a turn by your local pharmacy and report back SwissVan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knersboy Posted January 24, 2020 Share Read this old article written by a journalist who set out to answer that question: https://www.outsideonline.com/1924306/drug-testNee man, all this article did was make me want to take human growth hormone. Not for performance benefit, but all the other good effects. peetwindhoek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted January 24, 2020 Share I would just be interested to know, what difference it would really make to us average Joe's, Will it be like superman or is it jut that 5% extra.From what I as a layman understand,between 4 and 11 % dependent upon your numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveno7 Posted January 24, 2020 Share From what I as a layman understand,between 4 and 11 % dependent upon your numbersEPO...Will do nothing if you haven't been on a training programme...you will need a dodgy trainer if you are using it illegally etc...you amount of red blood cells will be thickened....good for at the moment o2 and training up...but the blood volumes get thickened ...( not good)...bigger chance of adverse clotting etc..ps dont touch the stuff... excellent article. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbz Posted January 25, 2020 Share I would just be interested to know, what difference it would really make to us average Joe's, Will it be like superman or is it jut that 5% extra.5% gain is tons of training to gain when already fairly fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted January 26, 2020 Share The way I understand it these drugs allow you to work harder because you recover quicker and therein lies the gain. Just squeezing a vial of EPO into your arm does fkol if you don't put in the work. That is my understanding of it.Yup, spot on. Same with most performance enhancers and roids. You spot the bloated and puffy boets at the Virgin Active that believed the myth that popping Dianabol will make you huge without work from a mile away. Not condoning the use of performance enhancers, but without actually putting in the extra work they aren't going to be of much help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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