LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[the nerd]

http://lchfchallenge.wordpress.com/

[P.A.K.]

The guys who use Nomu Skinny, how is that different from just coco with a bit of sweetener?

[lloydkayak]

For those who may be interested ...

 

Noakes and fellow authors of his new book Meal Revolution are doing a talk at SSI on 2 Dec. Call 021 4616808 to book a place. No charge, but not lots of space left apparently.

 

If anyone does, go, let me know as I'll be there and it's always nice to physically meet the folk we interact with in the virtual world!

 

Thanks for the link Dale, I took two spots thus only 13 left

[North Shore]

Even if Tim Noakes' diet is successful the science behind it is non existent at best, and it's absolutely deplorable that he got a series of self reported diet anecdotes published in a medical journal.

 

http://synapses.co.za/lessons-bad-science-tim-noakes-samj/

[Roux 1]

Even if Tim Noakes' diet is successful the science behind it is non existent at best, and it's absolutely deplorable that he got a series of self reported diet anecdotes published in a medical journal.

 

http://synapses.co.z...im-noakes-samj/

 

Well come to this information high way.

[Leon Besaans]

Even if Tim Noakes' diet is successful the science behind it is non existent at best, and it's absolutely deplorable that he got a series of self reported diet anecdotes published in a medical journal.

 

http://synapses.co.z...im-noakes-samj/

 

Whatever!!! Prof Google and his 400million well educated people can justify anything.

 

Maybe read this.... http://www.dcscience.net/?p=6300

Edited November 22, 2013 by Leon Besaans

[Woolf]

Even if Tim Noakes' diet is successful the science behind it is non existent at best, and it's absolutely deplorable that he got a series of self reported diet anecdotes published in a medical journal.

 

http://synapses.co.z...im-noakes-samj/

If you took the time to read the comments below the post from Mr Rossouw you'd see the reason for Prof Noakes's article. It was never meant to be a scientific study and he never claimed that it was. It was merely placed so as to inform the medical fraternity of a alternative treatment available to certain medical conditions.

 

I look at it this way. If an amputee regrows his lost limb and his amazed GP notifies the rest of the medical fraternity not via his email list but via a respected medical journal of this feat would we all be up in arms about it? Lets say the amputee claims the only thing he changed was to eat a lizard a day. What!? a lizard a day? That surely can't be good, can it? His doctor may not have an ample supply of lizards or amputees but there may be a specialist out there who has. Then the studies start with control groups and different lizards etc.

 

Point is that Prof Noakes shared his observations with his peers who now have an alternate view to kick of their own studies to prove or debunk his observations.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Woolf

[DaleE]

...and it's absolutely deplorable that he got a series of self reported diet anecdotes published in a medical journal.

 

Would it have been more acceptable if it was published in Fair Lady? or Runners World?

 

An opinion piece is just that ... opinion. Makes no difference where it's published.

Not everything that is published in SAMJ is perfect science ... some stuff is peer reviewed, some is not .... Noakes' piece was not.

If you really have an issue with what they publish ... It's the editor who decides what gets printed, not the contributors.

[davetapson]

Even if Tim Noakes' diet is successful the science behind it is non existent at best, and it's absolutely deplorable that he got a series of self reported diet anecdotes published in a medical journal.

 

http://synapses.co.z...im-noakes-samj/

 

Noakes' words:

I wrote the article to alert my colleagues to the fact that there is a simple

dietary option that might be able to reverse the very conditions that our

profession finds so difficult to treat - obesity, type 2 diabetes, metabolic

syndrome. I also referred to the extensive scientific literature showing why

and how this dietary intervention does and should work for people with these

conditions. The explanations are simple, obvious and proven.

...

At no point in the article is the claim ever made that this is an attempt at a

scientific proof of a particular diet. That is why the title includes the words

- Occasional Survey. It is simply a group of case reports showing that some

patients achieve remarkable cures for their intractable medical conditions...

This JR is not the JR who Noakes' had the debate with - anyone know if they are related?

[davetapson]

SMH.

 

Was trying to find out if the two JR's are related and came across accolades to JR Snr as one of Time magazines 100 people of the year, 2006.

 

This from TIME magazine, in 2006!!

 

(Highlight is mine):

 

More revelations from the WHI have rocked the biological world of women in just the past few months: calcium supplements don't necessarily save their bones, and a low-fat diet — long touted as the acme of nutritional virtue — doesn't seem to do much good at all.

 

Read more: Jacques Rossouw - The 2006 TIME 100 - TIME http://content.time.... #ixzz2lMvFd2e2

Edited November 22, 2013 by davetapson

[Riaanvt]

 

This JR is not the JR who Noakes' had the debate with - anyone know if they are related?

 

I couldn't quite understand the motive for this lecturer from UCT to write his column about the article in SAMJ until I heard from a trusted source that he is the son of Dr Jacques Rossouw (who ran the $700m Womens' Health Initiative study that actually disproved the diet-heart hypothesis) but I notice that their surnames are spelt differently.

[davetapson]

I couldn't quite understand the motive for this lecturer from UCT to write his column about the article in SAMJ until I heard from a trusted source that he is the son of Dr Jacques Rossouw (who ran the $700m Womens' Health Initiative study that actually disproved the diet-heart hypothesis) but I notice that their surnames are spelt differently.

 

Good spot. Yeh - son defending father would explain a rather misguided attack. It would seem that there is some issue at stake tho, as the guy is like a bulldog at a bone.

[davetapson]

Ha!

 

HTOne - you're famous mate.

 

Have just received my copy of The Real Meal Revolution from Kalahari.

 

What's the first proper recipe in the book!?

 

'When a cyclist said he doesn't leave the house without having his fat shake in the morning, it changed everything. People need fat, especially if they're going to be sweating it out all day. This fat shake recipe is inspired by a blog post on TheHubSA.co.za an incredibly popular South African online cycling forum.

 

150ml full-cream milk

50g butter

50ml cream

200ml coconut cream

1 tbsp sugar-free hot chocolate (or a good chunk of 80% couverture or some cocoa powder)

1/4 tsp salt

...

 

So - it doesnt' much look the same anymore, but I reckon it will still work fine.

 

Will you autograph my book next time I'm in CT?

Edited November 25, 2013 by davetapson

[htone]

Ha!

 

HTOne - you're famous mate.

 

Have just received my copy of The Real Meal Revolution from Kalahari.

 

What's the first proper recipe in the book!?

 

'When a cyclist said he doesn't leave the house without having his fat shake in the morning, it changed everything. People need fat, especially if they're going to be sweating it out all day. This fat shake recipe is inspired by a blog post on TheHubSA.co.za an incredibly popular South African online cycling forum.

 

150ml full-cream milk

50g butter

50ml cream

200ml coconut cream

1 tbsp sugar-free hot chocolate (or a good chunk of 80% couverture or some cocoa powder)

1/4 tsp salt

...

 

So - it doesnt' much look the same anymore, but I reckon it will still work fine.

 

Will you autograph my book next time I'm in CT?

 

For a small fee I will do practically anything LOL.

[htone]

The guys who use Nomu Skinny, how is that different from just coco with a bit of sweetener?

Same same

[DaleE]

Have just received my copy of The Real Meal Revolution from Kalahari.

 

Ya, so where's the feedback?

You've had 2 days to read , so what's the verdict? Do I order one or not?