rouxtjie Posted June 27, 2013 Share And the Cape Pioneer Trek - also boring - much cheaper and sounds plenty exciting to me? In fact, I was referring to the attitude and ethos of the event organisers rather than the route. I'll agree that the soft terrain of KZN isnt a match for the rocks and mountains of the Karoo and winelands, but all that dirt road roadie bunch riding is K@k in my opinion.Yip and you are entitled to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega Man Posted June 27, 2013 Share but all that dirt road roadie bunch riding is K@k in my opinion.Expect a LOT of flak for saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibruegge Posted June 27, 2013 Share Ego's aside and back to the topic - I don't understand how one can say it is too expensive while it sells within 36 seconds and that KE forgets about the locals while the % of SA riders is still the majority?! Show me any international event attracting top teams and still keep the majority local.. No, I haven't done it and no I won't do it, but congrats to KE for succeeding in establishing the epic as the top race. Edited June 27, 2013 by ibruegge Skubarra, Andrew Steer and Kavandje 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted June 27, 2013 Share WHEW - loads of anger around today.it's just the 29er vs 26er moer mekaar in disguise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted June 27, 2013 Share No not at all, the problem here is we have a culture of mathon riding so there isnt a market for real fun trails - ie technical steep stuff that require skill development beyond being fit and able to ride over a root or two. There is scope for this kind of riding here for sure, especially in the Cape and trail builders are slowly creating some amazing routes - try Welvanpas for size...mmmm ok, but then why do you guys have to go halfway across the world to go and ride your machines. Don't think we have the terrain and steep gradients that allow this type of riding....in my opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted June 27, 2013 Share Ego's aside and back to the topic - I don't understand how one can say it is too expensive while it sells within 36 seconds and that KE forgets about the locals while the % of SA riders is still the majority?! Show me any international event attracting top teams and still keep the majority local.. No, I haven't done it and no I won't do it, but congrats to KE for succeeding in establishing the epic as the top race.Yip he has an awesome event and cash cow....melk hom KV, you can because its yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazambaan Posted June 27, 2013 Share The Epic is out of my range. Mentally, physically and monetarily. The problem with AM in SA is no bleddy ski lifts for the uphills. In my humble opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega Man Posted June 27, 2013 Share Ego's aside and back to the topic - I don't understand how one can say it is too expensive while it sells within 36 seconds and that KE forgets about the locals while the % of SA riders is still the majority?! Show me any international event attracting top teams and still keep the majority local.. No, I haven't done it and no I won't do it, but congrats to KE for succeeding in establishing the epic as the top race.100%. If you are selling a product that sells out in 35 seconds a year in advance you are doing a LOT right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted June 27, 2013 Share Yip and you are entitled to it. Thanks, but I knew that :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted June 27, 2013 Share Ego's aside and back to the topic - I don't understand how one can say it is too expensive while it sells within 36 seconds and that KE forgets about the locals while the % of SA riders is still the majority?! Show me any international event attracting top teams and still keep the majority local.. No, I haven't done it and no I won't do it, but congrats to KE for succeeding in establishing the epic as the top race.exactly. the true value of something is the price someone is willing to pay for it. clearly loads of people are willing to pay the epic price, so it is not overpriced. one might argue it is under-priced considering how quickly it sells out. Skubarra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega Man Posted June 27, 2013 Share mmmm ok, but then why do you guys have to go halfway across the world to go and ride your machines. Don't think we have the terrain and steep gradients that allow this type of riding....in my opinion of courseTrue. But that trip halfway round the world costs less than the Epic.... Just saying. TopFuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted June 27, 2013 Share it's just the 29er vs 26er moer mekaar in disguise... Seems like its DH vs AM vs XCM vs XCO vs Dirt Roadie etc etc Does it ever end?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshot Posted June 27, 2013 Share In my opinion, of course, but based on some observable facts and having hiked around most of teh W Cape mountains - we have some pretty damn steep mountains here, not as high as the Alps, but steep. Whats lacking is a trail network and a market for said network... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Karma Posted June 27, 2013 Share So, to all those who complain that it is too expensive, start your own multi day stage race and charge less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Latent Blue Posted June 27, 2013 Share exactly. the true value of something is the price someone is willing to pay for it. clearly loads of people are willing to pay the epic price, so it is not overpriced. one might argue it is under-priced considering how quickly it sells out. Im not disagreeing with you... Im just wondering how much charity money is being spent on entry fees for the riders...? Im just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega Man Posted June 27, 2013 Share In my opinion, of course, but based on some observable facts and having hiked around most of teh W Cape mountains - we have some pretty damn steep mountains here, not as high as the Alps, but steep. Whats lacking is a trail network and a market for said network...Yeah true. Jonkers is certainly getting to be right up there tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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