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Lyoness: Scam or not?  

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  1. 1. Is it a scam?

    • Yes! I've tried it, it's a scam
      4
    • No it's legit. Tried and tested, I get cash back
      2
    • Have never heard of it!
      21


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What kind of discount on an electric unicorn? Or a perpetual motion machine?

 

Scam.

Sounds like your mind is made up, let me not try to discourage you with facts.
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@madscot

 

Please feel free to post all info here on the hub.

 

Start by telling us how long you have been doing this, and what your monthly/annual saving/ return on you card is.

 

 

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Why are people then R20k lumpsums into Lyoness? Cause thats what some of our friends trying to convince us to do?

 

That's if you want to start a business, as they call it,

That's advanced level and really wouldn't go for it, rather join and do the basic stuff till you sure and understand the system and you already have your own list of subs. Which will bring you to the same point with out having to transfer 20k into lyoness, it will just take longer,

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I have a dischem loyalty card. Can't recall that I paid anything for it and every now and then I claim my points and get anything up to R100 off that purchase.

 

I also use the pick a pay loyalty card connected to my discovery vitality. I save about R400/month only in points and on top of that I get a cash back on my vitality card every month or 2 for healthy food. Its money for jam really

 

Sounds like these work on the same principle as you described

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I'm sure all Bernie Maddoff's clients thought he was legit.

 

just like old Bernie, Lyoness is just a scam. A sophisticated one, but a scam nonetheless.

 

Money is not easy to come by. We work, we pay taxes and we save. Then we spend our hard-earned cash on bicycles.

 

No-one is going to give you money. There is always payback. That 20k of which someone spoke far outweighs the sweeteners that have been cashed in on purchases.

 

The same reasoning they employ applies to that schoolyard drug dealer's strategy: the first hit of heroin is absolutely free, thereafter, all it costs is your life. In this case it will cost you and everyone you've introduced to the scheme.

 

Good for you, young entrepreneur! It will,make you feel all warm and fuzzy when your friends and relatives ask you why you led them down that particular path.

 

Anyone for a game of aeroplane?

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I have a dischem loyalty card. Can't recall that I paid anything for it and every now and then I claim my points and get anything up to R100 off that purchase.

 

I also use the pick a pay loyalty card connected to my discovery vitality. I save about R400/month only in points and on top of that I get a cash back on my vitality card every month or 2 for healthy food. Its money for jam really

 

Sounds like these work on the same principle as you described

Aahhh, but to do that Discovery are a registered FSP.

Are lyoness?

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So the bait is the discount and cash back....?

 

Then what follows is the "advanced" and "exclusive" scheme of putting cash in, no doubt commission is payable on that to those who sign you up. And many benefiting in the short term so everyone "believes" - then the next thing you know all that cash is ... gone. Scheme folds.

 

SCAM!

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And that's how greedy schemers work, by co-opting everyone with kickbacks, in the belief everyone is motivated by money.

 

You see that in business, with suppliers giving cash or gifts via pay back schemes to decision makers, most of this is legit as such, but for morally reprehensible as far as I am concerned.

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That's if you want to start a business, as they call it,

That's advanced level and really wouldn't go for it, rather join and do the basic stuff till you sure and understand the system and you already have your own list of subs. Which will bring you to the same point with out having to transfer 20k into lyoness, it will just take longer,

 

This really does sound like the modus operandi of a pyramid scheme!

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If Lyoness is not affiliated with the stores (which I am assuming it is not) then where is the money that is getting paid back come from. I haven't done too much reading but it really does have that ponzi feel to it.

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