Leg breaker Posted October 14, 2013 Share I don't mind wind that much, as long as it slows down the winning time. I'm not sure about the route, what affect will a SE have on us ? Will we have a head wind on the way back i'm guessing ? Looking forward to Sunday Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted October 14, 2013 Share I don't mind wind that much, as long as it slows down the winning time. I'm not sure about the route, what affect will a SE have on us ? Will we have a head wind on the way back i'm guessing ? Looking forward to Sunday From the turnoff to Hermon / Riebeek Kasteel, over Botmaskop to the turnoff to Malmesbury, all the way from Malmesbury on the R304 to the turnoff onto Kromme Rhee ( this is a very short section) and then again all the way on R44 to finish will be into the wind. Would guesstimate about 80km into the teeth of the SE.NOT GONNA BE FUN IF IT'S A HOWLER!! lucmccann 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sluiper Posted October 14, 2013 Share From the turnoff to Hermon / Riebeek Kasteel, over Botmaskop to the turnoff to Malmesbury, all the way from Malmesbury on the R304 to the turnoff onto Kromme Rhee ( this is a very short section) and then again all the way on R44 to finish will be into the wind. Would guesstimate about 80km into the teeth of the SE.NOT GONNA BE FUN IF IT'S A HOWLER!! Yeah, that's not a pleasant piece of road when the wind is blowing. I've been dropped on that section more than once. If you lose the wheel of the guy in front of you, you get blown away like an old newspaper. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRW Posted October 14, 2013 Share From the turnoff to Hermon / Riebeek Kasteel, over Botmaskop to the turnoff to Malmesbury, all the way from Malmesbury on the R304 to the turnoff onto Kromme Rhee ( this is a very short section) and then again all the way on R44 to finish will be into the wind. Would guesstimate about 80km into the teeth of the SE.NOT GONNA BE FUN IF IT'S A HOWLER!! just reading this makes me think back to our training ride and i really dont want to remember that ...cause then i have to go drink to try to forget about it ........ lucmccann 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted October 14, 2013 Share just reading this makes me think back to our training ride and i really dont want to remember that ...cause then i have to go drink to try to forget about it ........ What does not kill you, makes you stronger. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazmo Posted October 14, 2013 Share WeatherSA: Stellies 14 knots, 15 gusts Windguru " 14 knots with 20 gusts Accuweather:SSE 29 km/hGusts: 42 km/h Edited October 14, 2013 by nazmo Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRW Posted October 14, 2013 Share OK....windguru has the lower wind forecast...we'll go with that then i really hope accuweather is wrong....... iteachcoffee 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted October 14, 2013 Share WeatherSA: Stellies 14 knots, 15 gusts Windguru " 14 knots with 20 gusts Accuweather:SSE 29 km/hGusts: 42 km/h Eina. If I wake up to the wind bending the Palmtree's in our street, I'm gonna turn around and go back to sleep. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted October 14, 2013 Share I don't mind wind that much, as long as it slows down the winning time. Wind would make your time relative to the winner slower, except if you're Cancellara and starting in Z. If you ride X minutes slower than the winner without wind, with wind you'll be X + Y minutes slower. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaldoZ Posted October 14, 2013 Share It sounds like I did not pick a great year to do my first one Lostee 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucmccann Posted October 14, 2013 Share I'm going to remain positive that, like the West Coast Express, the wind will play along with us...or just not be as brutal as on the recce ride... Wannabe and Mads 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg breaker Posted October 14, 2013 Share Wind would make your time relative to the winner slower, except if you're Cancellara and starting in Z. If you ride X minutes slower than the winner without wind, with wind you'll be X + Y minutes slower. This is true, but the winner will be from a large group so in wind it won't affect their time that much. If i start in D or drop down to join a DC team, it will never be the size of the A-B group. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaldoZ Posted October 14, 2013 Share This is true, but the winner will be from a large group so in wind it won't affect their time that much. If i start in D or drop down to join a DC team, it will never be the size of the A-B group. I think he meant, it will effect your time... you will be slower. This is bad as the gap between you and winner will be larger hence the X+Y. Your point even motivates this further... bad news all round Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted October 14, 2013 Share I agree with andydude and waldoZ - unless PPA put a big fat juicy Beta on your race result, you probably don't want this one to determine your Argus seeding. Will be at the back with my DC team anyway, so Die Burger my only proper seeding race this year Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJR Posted October 14, 2013 Share What does not kill you, makes you stronger. Exactly, It's the possibility that the wind might just kill, that has me worried. Wannabe 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGR Posted October 14, 2013 Share What will the weighting towards your Argus seeding if you did this as well as Die Burger. Do they consider the last Argus as well - Ive already been 'fined' as I havnt done a seeded race in months (through Racetec/PPA anyways) Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/130062-ppa-one-tonner-20-oct-2013/page/4/#findComment-2095773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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