Guest DieBees Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Hey guys. I need some advise please? Me and my wife have been training very hard the last two months leading up to Die Burger. For the last three weeks we had problems with lactic acid build up, we are using L-Glutamine on a regular basis. (we ride tandem in most races) In turn, lack of power on the bike and constant burning muscles with no stop until we get off the bike (s). We rested two extra days last week and also left intervals out and did easy spinning. Still, it hurts like hell. Do we keep on training for this week? Do we take it easy, where do you think all of this is coming from and what is the solution? Will appreciate some help.
V12man Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Hey guys. I need some advise please? Me and my wife have been training very hard the last two months leading up to Die Burger. For the last three weeks we had problems with lactic acid build up, we are using L-Glutamine on a regular basis. (we ride tandem in most races) In turn, lack of power on the bike and constant burning muscles with no stop until we get off the bike (s). We rested two extra days last week and also left intervals out and did easy spinning. Still, it hurts like hell. Do we keep on training for this week? Do we take it easy, where do you think all of this is coming from and what is the solution? Will appreciate some help. Take a few days off (3 or 4) - quit the L-Glutamine, and just eat regular food. and plenty of water - take your wife for a massage or 2 and see how it goes. Possibly you have a viral infection that is affecting you, but supplements often have weird side effects - in any case supplements will not make you go faster. ruib, slowpoke, Capricorn and 3 others 6
Capricorn Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 highly support the massage. One thing most ppl suffer more than over exertion is under recovery. Good R&R is like overtaking in the pits.
mon-goose Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 agreed. lay off the supplements, drink loads of water, eat well, rest and get a massage. Then when you start again take it very easy with light gears
peadar Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 some easy stretching, massages and real protein (eggs, steak and lots of h2o).compression pants will help if you have.
fanievb Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 resteat proper fooddrink lots of waterstretchget a foam roller http://www.bicycling.com/training-nutrition/injury-prevention/roll-out-kinks
Hearts* Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Agreed rest is the best medicine...I was off the bike 4 weeks and did the CDC, I have no sore muscles now.It must be noted I did suffer however, but due to constipation...build up of a different kind. I always feels stronger after a good resting period of +1 week.
gummibear Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 RestDrink at least 2l of water a dayTake in less dairy products and go for a good deep tissue massage.
'Dale Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Foam roller, daily use200 Randelas, Dischem S t r e t c h Zzzzz fanievb and Dazshell 2
Helpmytrap Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Lactic acid isn't the villain it is made out to be (kind of like blaming the fireman for starting the fire because he was at the scene of the crime,) so it has most likely got nothing to do with the sore legs. Your body knows what is best, sore legs = rest. It is telling you that you are overdoing it a bit. Remember that quality training calls for quality rest. Did you know that lactic acid is produced both in you anaerobic AND aerobic muscles? i.e. it is produced at both sub-maximal as well as maximal intensities. The lactic acid makes its way into the blood stream where it is converted to Lactate. This Lactate serves as a substitute for glucose to help fuel the muscles, which helps conserve glucose in endurance events. This same Lactate in the blood then replenishes up to a maximum of half of your glycogen stores after the ride leaving the other >50% to the break down of fats, certain amino acids and carbohydrates that is present in your body from stored fat, muscle catabolism and your food intake in the 30min post-ride window.A cool down after a hard ride/intervals is very important as it aids in this recovery process, think of it as recovery preparation.Point being that lactic acid isn't a source of the pain but more a by-product of the muscles function in order to sustain the continuous efforts you subject it to.-The above is from Phil Maffetone.
kevin Walter Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Lactic acid isn't the villain it is made out to be (kind of like blaming the fireman for starting the fire because he was at the scene of the crime,) so it has most likely got nothing to do with the sore legs. Your body knows what is best, sore legs = rest. It is telling you that you are overdoing it a bit. Remember that quality training calls for quality rest. Did you know that lactic acid is produced both in you anaerobic AND aerobic muscles? i.e. it is produced at both sub-maximal as well as maximal intensities. The lactic acid makes its way into the blood stream where it is converted to Lactate. This Lactate serves as a substitute for glucose to help fuel the muscles, which helps conserve glucose in endurance events. This same Lactate in the blood then replenishes up to a maximum of half of your glycogen stores after the ride leaving the other >50% to the break down of fats, certain amino acids and carbohydrates that is present in your body from stored fat, muscle catabolism and your food intake in the 30min post-ride window.A cool down after a hard ride/intervals is very important as it aids in this recovery process, think of it as recovery preparation.Point being that lactic acid isn't a source of the pain but more a by-product of the muscles function in order to sustain the continuous efforts you subject it to.-The above is from Phil Maffetone.Where did you read this, I'm always looking for sources of quality info like this...?
mr HED Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 Where did you read this, I'm always looking for sources of quality info like this...? google phil maffetone - he has a website and buy his book on training from the kindle site.
feetup Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Unless your Lance-leave all that crap alone!(supliments)dried fruits during ridessalt on your foodwater,water,water!warm up before and stretch after time in the saddle is the only way. Tandem riding?get a review mirrorDid you ever consider that the misses is peddling less then you? That would get the legs going lol Edited January 13, 2014 by feetup
Trainingfrenzy Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Hi, have you tried taking a bath with muscle recovery bath salt? It works for sore muscles and helps toxins exit through your skin. It also increases muscle recovery time so you can quickly get back to training. You can try Natubath, you should just find out about delivery costs. I know that when you are in Cape Town- Durbanville area its free delivery.
hayleyearth Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Maybe get some "perde salf" and have a couple of romantic evenings with your wife....massaging each other. The one I used in December (cant remember the name now) was nice and cool too and worked awesomely! Trainingfrenzy 1
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