Johny Bravo Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 I do, of a time, and the Spazzes far outweigh the Vipas. You just see the vipa more often 'cos you lust after it so much, so you notice them more. They stand out of the spaztastic & giant crowd.I do like them for sure.
b-rad Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Can us mere mortals also buy the white frame? It's the 2015 frame as far as I know, so yes. When it comes out of course.
Iwan Kemp Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Can us mere mortals also buy the white frame? Team issue only.
no calves Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Can us mere mortals also buy the white frame? Its the '15 model with 1x specific stays. yes croeser's built it with electric suspension, xx1 and Valor wheels, and that downer stem with flopped handlebar DOES look so racy. Put that bike next to Kulhavy's epic with saddle NOSE down and pic your dream bike... Thought so, VIPA all the way. Granted most of us will never get our bikes to look so Pro it is merely the fact that we feel that way when riding them no matter what we look like on race photo's. BOTH is my dream bike and both can be bought from slx to xx1. but what bike wil give you a million dollar ride with slx? remember only a frame makes a momsen a momsen and an epic an epic. the rest is just parts. in my mind il go with the vipa due to more everyday standards. buying an epic is like buying a supercar, nice to drive but be prepared to pay for all those in house standards Just my 2c Edited June 3, 2014 by no calves
nonky Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Try a CAMBER (carbon expert) 2014 Bible of Bike Tests Roundtable Reels: Specialized Camber 29 Find out why you should know about this versatile 29er By: Brice Minnigh [/url] 15 Most mountain bikers are well aware of Specialized’s flagship Stumpjumper and Enduro models. But hiding in the shadow of these standout bikes is a less-celebrated yet equally capable beast: the Specialized Camber Expert Carbon EVO 29. Watch this video to find out why some of our testers picked the Camber as their favorite bike of the entire 2014 Bible of Bike Tests.SPECIALIZED CAMBER EXPERT CARBON EVO 29Price: $6,000Contact: specialized.comDirect Link: specialized.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/camber/camber-expert-carbon-evo-29Final Take: This beast proves that the ‘Big Red S’ actually stands for ‘Slayer.’http://stwww.bikemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Specialized-Camber-Expert-Carbon-Evo-29.jpgSpecialized Camber Expert Carbon EVO 29This bike rocked our worlds. And it has a strong case for being the overall favorite of the 2014 Bible of Bike Tests. It certainly was my favorite.With Specialized already known for game-changing steeds like the Stumpjumper and the Enduro, one could be forgiven for asking how the wagon-wheeled Camber could rank so highly. The hard part in explaining this is deciding where to actually begin.Let’s start with how well this stiff, lightweight bike pedals, which is better than an Enduro or Stumpjumper—the Camber’s beefier FSR brethren, which gobble up meaty descents like Jabba the Hutt coming off a fast but are known for pedal bob while climbing with the shock wide open. Not so with the Camber, which has less travel and employs a lower leverage ratio, allowing for more efficient pedaling than other FSR models.And while the Camber didn’t feel as plush on the downhills as an Enduro or a Stumpy, it was eminently capable compared to many of the bikes in our test—a strength that could partially be attributed to the enlightened choice of a RockShox Pike fork with its travel reduced to 120 millimeters. The Pike’s stiff, 35-millimeter stanchions and bump-slaying proclivities, combined with the steamroller tendencies of 29-inch wheels, made the Camber a veritable Wehrmacht when pointed downhill.The downside to this descending speed was the presence of Formula T1 S brakes, whose stopping power didn’t measure up to the Camber’s penchant for speed. However, this was easily offset by the rest of the parts, including a SRAM X1 drivetrain, Roval Traverse wheels, Specialized tires and 750-millimeter-wide Specialized XC Mini Riser bars. For the well-rounded trail rider who appreciates a taxing technical climb almost as much as a descent, the Camber could never steer you wrong. –Brice MinnighBible of Bike Tests Now Available In Full Online. Go here —> bikemag.com/2014-bike-bibleLooking for reviews of the most promising mountain bikes for the 2014 season? Bike magazine’s fifth-annual Bible of Bike Tests is the mountain-bike world’s most comprehensive gear guide, with honest, balanced reviews of 34 new models. Each review is a consensus of our seasoned crew of testers, who put every bike through its paces on the challenging trails of Sedona, Arizona. We’ve also included a video of our often-heated ‘Roundtable Reels’ discussions on each bike to give you a clearer idea of what each tester thought. Expect the unexpected. <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/N3833/jump/bikemag.primedia.com.primedia.com/videos;site=bikemag;sect=videos;subs=;subss=;page=2014-bible-bike-tests-roundtable-reels-specialized-camber-29;type=photos;pos=top;tile=4;sz=300x250;kw=;ord=123456789?" ><img src="http://ad.doubleclick.net/N3833/ad/bikemag.primedia.com.primedia.com/videos;site=bikemag;sect=videos;subs=;subss=;page=2014-bible-bike-tests-roundtable-reels-specialized-camber-29;type=photos;pos=top;tile=4;sz=300x250;kw=;ord=123456789?" width="300" height="250" border="0" alt=""></a> <a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/N3833/jump/bikemag.primedia.com.primedia.com/videos;site=bikemag;sect=videos;subs=;subss=;page=2014-bible-bike-tests-roundtable-reels-specialized-camber-29;type=photos;pos=bottom;tile=5;sz=300x250;kw=;ord=123456789?" ><img src="http://ad.doubleclick.net/N3833/ad/bikemag.primedia.com.primedia.com/videos;site=bikemag;sect=videos;subs=;subss=;page=2014-bible-bike-tests-roundtable-reels-specialized-camber-29;type=photos;pos=bottom;tile=5;sz=300x250;kw=;ord=123456789?" width="300" height="250" border="0" alt=""></a>
GrantRH Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 And here is a review for the Epic Comp Carbon: http://gear.bikemag.com/2014-bible-of-bike-tests/cross-country/specialized-epic-comp-carbon.html Pity that Bikemag don't have a review for the Vipa. Even though I am a big fan of my Epic Elite (one up from the Comp Carbon), the VIPA is 2nd on my list.
GrantRH Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 In fairness to the Vipa fans, here is a Vipa review: http://www.bicycling.co.za/bikes-gear/reviewed-momsen-vipa/
PJP2013 Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 I'm highly annoyed with Specialized SA, their odd business model and lack of customer service. That said, their products, including their bikes, are excellent. I want to hate them but can't. Go with the Epic It's all in your head, they do make excellent products but there a few manufacturers out there that do the same and better. There is something funny about that "S Works" tag that hypnotises people into blindly parting with their cash. Hope whoever came up with the tag got a fat bonus, but then again Americans are always the very good at marketing.
nonky Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Says something when you can only find 2 reviews for the Vipa on Google...just saying
GoLefty!! Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 It's all in your head, they do make excellent products but there a few manufacturers out there that do the same and better. There is something funny about that "S Works" tag that hypnotises people into blindly parting with their cash. Hope whoever came up with the tag got a fat bonus, but then again Americans are always the very good at marketing. They coined S-works when Lockheed was in the news a lot because of the Skunk Works products; F-22, F-35..... They felt they needed to compete with some other brands that has more zoot and zing to their names than a simple word from a dictionary only found in one country. I'd take the ViPa. In fact if I could I would make my next bike as non American as possible but unfortunately I do like that SRAM XX1 a Lot (even though SRAM is actually designed and developed in Germany and has Saxo Franco roots Sachs-Huret)it may have to be Swiss or Canadian with Japanese parts.No if only Shimano would talk to Showa about those shocks...
marko35s Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Says something when you can only find 2 reviews for the Vipa on Google...just sayingHelp me out a bit here, what does it say?
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