Pure Savage Posted August 1, 2014 Share Just out of interest, is the 2nd stop being handled like the first? Compulsory stop and time being stopped? I am doing it for the 5th/6th time - can't care really - but there has definitely been a pro/con decision made with every single change in the race. My personal view is; have a team scooter following the team for assistance with mechanicals, etc. Back-up vehicles wait at the Stops for feeding. I made that suggestion two years ago - guess my suggestion fell on deaf ears. They have worded it the same as the first stop. Would be funny to see 200 scooters. Just weld some spare wheel holders to your frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted August 1, 2014 Share You rocket scientists clearly all come top 10 at the dc seeing as it's so easy, right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted August 1, 2014 Share You rocket scientists clearly all come top 10 at the dc seeing as it's so easy, right Point is that a stop makes it easier regardless of where you place. If the wind blows again then the one tonner def a bit tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted August 1, 2014 Share Point is that a stop makes it easier regardless of where you place. If the wind blows again then the one tonner def a bit tougher. One tonner = sit in bunch of 200 riders for 130 km and suffer last 30km Dc = 12 riders only. No bunch to hide in. Regardless of these new stops. Measure your tss and tell me which race got you more tss points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velouria Posted August 1, 2014 Share Point is that a stop makes it easier regardless of where you place. If the wind blows again then the one tonner def a bit tougher. The stop doesn't make it any easier, it just breaks the suffer fest into two halves. The only thing that makes the DC easy is when you blow and get dropped by your team. And if you're going to blow, better make sure you're rider number 7. Being rider number 6 and blowing is a whole other world of suffering. Pure Savage, fandacious, Tiny K and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sworks20 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Agreed, having a two breaks allows teams to get back together and then go off again together with a full team. Even if the guys are blown, they can still pull for 10-15mkm while stronger riders rest. 160km non stop is harder than 200km with two breaks. You can wheel suck and get pushed around the dc in an easy time as well so the bunches make no difference. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA So if its that easy you clearly podium material. AuctionLamb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted August 2, 2014 Share Easy is a relative term... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted August 2, 2014 Share so it really doesn't phase them if there are only 8-10 racing teams who's going to bitch about not having backup vehicles, . You start with twelve okes, six of them are effectively backup already. If you have a mechanical then it's your own fault for not preparing the bike, punctures should be dealt with by taking a wheel if it's one of your stronger guys. The new strategy for the DC is to ride until you blow, coast to the next stop within 30 minutes of your team and then go again, so can you send a few guys up the road to start the 30minute timer, or does it have to be from the 6th guy into the stop? Tiny K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny K Posted August 4, 2014 Share They have worded it the same as the first stop. Would be funny to see 200 scooters. Just weld some spare wheel holders to your frame Can't weld onto carbon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny K Posted August 4, 2014 Share so can you send a few guys up the road to start the 30minute timer, or does it have to be from the 6th guy into the stop? You can, yes. But effectively, the guys that fell off are going to have less rest than the guys who went off the front... they would be fatigued by not having someone to pace them in - great plan in theory but not so much practically... Dlg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted August 4, 2014 Share Can't weld onto carbon... Pratly putty some on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomo Posted August 4, 2014 Share Whether it's easier or not is irrelevant ... the event/rule(s) is what it is.!It's like debating whether Argus was easier when it stopped @ Maidens Cove.Participate and enjoy it.!Remember, you could have been one of those who didn't get an entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted August 4, 2014 Share Whether it's easier or not is irrelevant ... the event/rule(s) is what it is.!It's like debating whether Argus was easier when it stopped @ Maidens Cove.Participate and enjoy it.!Remember, you could have been one of those who didn't get an entry. Spot on...it is what it isITO Maidens Cove it might have been easier but it was better.One year we stood around a fire at the finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlg Posted August 6, 2014 Share Spot on...it is what it isITO Maidens Cove it might have been easier but it was better.One year we stood around a fire at the finish The hub is here for me to "Rant 'n Rave", therefore I am on here to rant and rave No one listens to me at home when I do it there so now you guys have to take it! Rule changes are there to complain about, if we accepted everything life would be boring! They have made their decision, the race snakes will treat it as 3 sprints (which personally I think is going to be more dangerous and more confusing with more teams latching on to others than before the rule changes) and the slow corporates (where let's face it this race is going towards) can coast and take 2 30min long coffee breaks. Edited August 6, 2014 by Might K*ks Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted August 7, 2014 Share The hub is here for me to "Rant 'n Rave", therefore I am on here to rant and rave No one listens to me at home when I do it there so now you guys have to take it! Rule changes are there to complain about, if we accepted everything life would be boring! They have made their decision, the race snakes will treat it as 3 sprints (which personally I think is going to be more dangerous and more confusing with more teams latching on to others than before the rule changes) and the slow corporates (where let's face it this race is going towards) can coast and take 2 30min long coffee breaks.I don't know hey. What's physically and mentally tougher, 200km in one go or split with forced stops? Good question for the sports scientists. Sitting for 30 minutes might stiffen up the muscles making it more difficult to get going again? So it could be a trade off between decreasing cardiovascular fatique somewhat, but increasing muscle fatique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted August 7, 2014 Share I don't know hey. What's physically and mentally tougher, 200km in one go or split with forced stops? Good question for the sports scientists. Sitting for 30 minutes might stiffen up the muscles making it more difficult to get going again? So it could be a trade off between decreasing cardiovascular fatique somewhat, but increasing muscle fatique. At what kms on the course are the pit stops...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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