Underachiever Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 AL for me too, will be in black and white FiT kit on Felt F4. Was on an old TCR wearing a red/white Flandria shirt at Serengeti. This time on my TCR Adv ISP, perhaps I will wear my Blu/white Kleenex kit on Sunday.
Zatek Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Hi hubbers some feedback regarding the seeding. It is not a seeding but a group placement. Our groups are smaller than the 94.7 according to CSA rules. You can check your seeding at registration but it depends on how many people entered with a better seeding than you. For example we only have 65 racing tandems so the other are complaining, The group sizes are kept small to ensure a safer ride. bmw1za and TALUS 2
djsam Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Looking at a DL Start... i bit better than my seeding last year so can't complain..
djsam Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Will the bunches break up early or is it a flat start? I have not seen the profile map yet. AL. Flat and fast to to start.. only hit a few bumps a little later on...then flat. with a headwind most likely coming home...
Race Turtle Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 AL for me too, will be in Cargo Carriers kit on Scott CR1.. My 1st R4S, looking forward to the sufferfest!
Frosty Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Hi hubbers some feedback regarding the seeding. It is not a seeding but a group placement. Our groups are smaller than the 94.7 according to CSA rules. You can check your seeding at registration but it depends on how many people entered with a better seeding than you. For example we only have 65 racing tandems so the other are complaining, The group sizes are kept small to ensure a safer ride.Surely that's how seedings are supposed to work… placing you in a group in order of your seeding. Lowest first, the rest follow until the batch is full? BTW, how many entries did you get? The Our would indicate that you're part of the organising folk Edited February 12, 2014 by geraldm24
Cellar Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 BTW, how many entries did you get? The Our would indicate that you're part of the organising folk I'm curious too.
Zatek Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I am not part of the organisers. Just thought I would share the reply I got from them. How can they have more entries that the 94.7 to push me to E? I am going to visit the reseeding at number collection and hopefully the will get it right.
Zatek Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I am not part of the organisers. Just thought I would share the reply I got from them. How can they have more entries that the 94.7 to push me to E? I am going to visit the reseeding at number collection and hopefully the will get it right.
Patchelicious Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Do you people not understand this? The group you are placed in is based on your seeding, it's not your seeding. If the organizers want groups of 20 instead of 200 and that means you are now group J and not A, so be it, the other people in your group have the same seeding index as you! I was grouped A for Serengeti on a higher index than my C in this race, simply as the entry numbers are higher. Re the comment on 94.7, those groups are 300-400 hundred, as they have full road closures and can have so many people in them. On a race like this, where it's narrow roads, the groups need to be smaller. I actually appreciate that the organizers did this, as this is a fast race. I bet the very same people who are moaning because their egos are not coping with a letter their group has been assigned would be the first to complain if there were crashes due to huge bunches. The letter on your race number not a sign how fast you are, your index shows that. It is the only real constant that covers all the races. Stop being so egotistical! First compare group winning times to last year before you criticize too much. I am sure the B this year will be faster than the B last year, same with C and D etc. Edited February 12, 2014 by ArchedBackChinOut W@nna-BE, bmw1za, rouxtjie and 9 others 12
Agteros Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 People read up on how PPA does their seeding and think thst is how races upcountry are seeded as well... rouxtjie 1
W@nna-BE Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 If you not happy with your seeding....... Train hard and get faster Patchelicious, Pusher, Bat and 1 other 4
TALUS Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I am not part of the organisers. Just thought I would share the reply I got from them. How can they have more entries that the 94.7 to push me to E? I am going to visit the reseeding at number collection and hopefully the will get it right.The okes in A solemnly pledge to give you right of way when you come past. Underachiever, bmw1za and Bat 3
GaryvdM Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Zatec: you can see you seeding index here: results.racetec.co.za/findme.aspx?ss=1 . It's ppa branding, but I'm quite certain that they use the same data for non ppa, racetec races. I'm sure if you compare you index to others in your group, I'm sure you will find they are similar. If you index is lower than you think it should be, get an understanding of the maths, and I'm sure you will figure out a way to improve it (generally ride faster in races, but I've also some other tactics, like ride in smaller races.) Hennie VR 1
rouxtjie Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 The joke is actually on anyone that starts in a batch that they dont have the legs for....you want to start in a batch that is inline with your abilities. If I start in A and should be in C well then is only one thing that can really happen Group drops me 10km in after I went through every single match I had just to hang on at the back of A batch...will be caught in no-man's land without any help and once another group catches me I won't have the legs to even stay with them. Remember you race your batch...thats all that counts. bmw1za, Underachiever, Hennie VR and 1 other 4
rouxtjie Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 People read up on how PPA does their seeding and think thst is how races upcountry are seeded as well...System works well....actually very well. Clear / Transparent and fair, this is from a newb that didn't have a road index in December 2013 Patchelicious 1
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