Is motorcycling allowed?

[i24]

that's minimalist...

 

It looks like the same bike that was on the DGR last week. Minimalist - no silencers (at all) and no front brakes... (no disk, no lever and no hydraulics).

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

It looks like the same bike that was on the DGR last week. Minimalist - no silencers (at all) and no front brakes... (no disk, no lever and no hydraulics).

WTAF re teh front brake. That can't be safe

[Wannabe]

Nah, not my cup of tea at all.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

It looks like the same bike that was on the DGR last week. Minimalist - no silencers (at all) and no front brakes... (no disk, no lever and no hydraulics).

 

That's the problem, you buy a bike standard. Get it through a roadworthy and licensed, thereafter you can do whatever you like. No need for periodic retesting, like in the UK with a MOT.

That's dangerous and reckless, the muppet isn't even wearing proper gear. Car jumps in front of him and everybody jumps up and down but in this case it's his own doing.

Stoopit......

[i24]

That's the problem, you buy a bike standard. Get it through a roadworthy and licensed, thereafter you can do whatever you like. No need for periodic retesting, like in the UK with a MOT.

That's dangerous and reckless, the muppet isn't even wearing proper gear. Car jumps in front of him and everybody jumps up and down but in this case it's his own doing.

Stoopit......

 

I think it is a show piece, not actually intended to be ridden. Licensed or not, the exhausts are so loud that there is very limited opportunity to run the motor. Maybe the brakes are a work in progress?

 

But I can think of other toys I would rather have in my garage - like an original airhead BMW.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

I think it is a show piece, not actually intended to be ridden. Licensed or not, the exhausts are so loud that there is very limited opportunity to run the motor. Maybe the brakes are a work in progress?

 

But I can think of other toys I would rather have in my garage - like an original airhead BMW.

 

Pretty sure that's a picture of him riding it to the DGR. If our law enforcement actually worked that would be impounded.

 

 

On a more serious note, I see they are trying to make lane splitting illegal again. What a bunch of muppets.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Pretty sure that's a picture of him riding it to the DGR. If our law enforcement actually worked that would be impounded.

 

 

On a more serious note, I see they are trying to make lane splitting illegal again. What a bunch of muppets.

They're actually not, if you read the amendment properly. Also, JP Smith has come out and said that they're definitely not. Bold bit is the text. Nowhere does it say lane splitting will be illegal. It DOES say that motos cannot ride 2 abreast in the same lane, and that 2 motos cannot simultaneously pass the same car. Which is logical. 

 

Cape Town - Motorcyclists are revved-up over a City traffic by-law amendment they say will outlaw lane sharing with cars or riding between cars (lane-splitting).

 

Bikers have accused the City of trying to ban them from riding between motor vehicles and making motorcycles behave like cars.

Bike dealership Bike Bros said there many changes were proposed, but the one of most concern to them is Section 49 (6) (a) of the Draft Traffic By-law that states that lane sharing by a motorcycle and another vehicle will no longer be permissible.

 

“We believe that this section of the proposal is extremely ill-advised. Bear in mind that Cape Town is the most heavily congested city in the country.

 

"Making motorcycles ride like a car in congested traffic situations makes no sense at all - it will just add to the problem.” The amended by-law states: “People, other than authorised officials in the performance of their duties, driving (sic) motorcycles on a public road, shall drive in single file except in the course of overtaking another motorcycle, and two or more persons driving motorcycles shall not overtake another vehicle at the same time: Provided that where a public road is divided into traffic lanes, each such lane shall, for the purposes of this paragraph, be regarded as a public road.”

 

According to Bike Bros, this would be the death knell for many motorcycle dealers. “If the dealers start disappearing, what will happen to the already stressed motorcycle market? Motorcycles will end up as no more than toys for the wealthy few.”

Vice-chairperson of Nomads Motorcycle Club Kevin Farrow said: “It is not possible for motorcyclists to ride behind a vehicle. We do plan on objecting to this.”

 

Another Biker Club, Gifted Knight, also raised concerns.

Club president Sidney Petersen said: “It will be more traffic on the road as motorcycles were never really part of traffic congestion. It will mean we have to travel by car as our motorcycles are not able to ride at 20km/h . They'll overheat and break down. The proposal is definitely ill-advised.”

Petersen also raised concerns about the safety of motorcyclists.

 

“It could be dangerous because bikers get rear-ended very easily.”

Mayco member for safety and security JP Smith has dismissed the bikers' claims. “Whoever is suggesting that the new traffic by-law is attempting to ban motorcycles from riding between motor vehicles has not read it and is creating a false panic.

“The section clearly shows that the provision in the by-law does not attempt to ban motorcycles from 'lane-splitting'. The provision in the by-law is an exact duplicate of what the national legislation says and the national legislation does not ban motorcycles from moving between vehicles when traffic is slow moving.

"There is therefore no reason to submit objections. Anybody wanting to object is free to undertake the effort, but their objection would not be speaking to an actual provision in the by-law. This has been confirmed with the officials who drafted the by-law.”

Edited October 14, 2019 by Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

[BSG]

I saw this on The Bike Show. 65000€ o my word and it's ugly.

 

http://www.broughsuperiormotorcycles.com/models/anniversary/introduction

[davetapson]

They're actually not, if you read the amendment properly. Also, JP Smith has come out and said that they're definitely not. Bold bit is the text. Nowhere does it say lane splitting will be illegal. It DOES say that motos cannot ride 2 abreast in the same lane, and that 2 motos cannot simultaneously pass the same car. Which is logical.

 

Cape Town - Motorcyclists are revved-up over a City traffic by-law amendment they say will outlaw lane sharing with cars or riding between cars (lane-splitting).

Bikers have accused the City of trying to ban them from riding between motor vehicles and making motorcycles behave like cars.

Bike dealership Bike Bros said there many changes were proposed, but the one of most concern to them is Section 49 (6) (a) of the Draft Traffic By-law that states that lane sharing by a motorcycle and another vehicle will no longer be permissible.

“We believe that this section of the proposal is extremely ill-advised. Bear in mind that Cape Town is the most heavily congested city in the country.

"Making motorcycles ride like a car in congested traffic situations makes no sense at all - it will just add to the problem.” The amended by-law states: “People, other than authorised officials in the performance of their duties, driving (sic) motorcycles on a public road, shall drive in single file except in the course of overtaking another motorcycle, and two or more persons driving motorcycles shall not overtake another vehicle at the same time: Provided that where a public road is divided into traffic lanes, each such lane shall, for the purposes of this paragraph, be regarded as a public road.”

 

 

 

 

 

According to Bike Bros, this would be the death knell for many motorcycle dealers. “If the dealers start disappearing, what will happen to the already stressed motorcycle market? Motorcycles will end up as no more than toys for the wealthy few.”

Vice-chairperson of Nomads Motorcycle Club Kevin Farrow said: “It is not possible for motorcyclists to ride behind a vehicle. We do plan on objecting to this.”

Another Biker Club, Gifted Knight, also raised concerns.

Club president Sidney Petersen said: “It will be more traffic on the road as motorcycles were never really part of traffic congestion. It will mean we have to travel by car as our motorcycles are not able to ride at 20km/h . They'll overheat and break down. The proposal is definitely ill-advised.”

Petersen also raised concerns about the safety of motorcyclists.

“It could be dangerous because bikers get rear-ended very easily.”

Mayco member for safety and security JP Smith has dismissed the bikers' claims. “Whoever is suggesting that the new traffic by-law is attempting to ban motorcycles from riding between motor vehicles has not read it and is creating a false panic.

“The section clearly shows that the provision in the by-law does not attempt to ban motorcycles from 'lane-splitting'. The provision in the by-law is an exact duplicate of what the national legislation says and the national legislation does not ban motorcycles from moving between vehicles when traffic is slow moving.

"There is therefore no reason to submit objections. Anybody wanting to object is free to undertake the effort, but their objection would not be speaking to an actual provision in the by-law. This has been confirmed with the officials who drafted the by-law.”

Badly written. Could also indicate you can't overtake of you're two-up? Which would be daft.

[davetapson]

I saw this on The Bike Show. 65000€ o my word and it's ugly.

 

http://www.broughsuperiormotorcycles.com/models/anniversary/introduction

A whole lot of nope.

[IceCreamMan]

I saw this on The Bike Show. 65000€ o my word and it's ugly.

 

http://www.broughsuperiormotorcycles.com/models/anniversary/introduction

Jeepers that’s a lot of loot.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Badly written. Could also indicate you can't overtake of you're two-up? Which would be daft.

I’d base my argument there on the us of the word driving instead of riding, otherwise I agree that viewed with a healthy squint and several glasses of whiskey, it may be read as such.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I saw this on The Bike Show. 65000€ o my word and it's ugly.http://www.broughsuperiormotorcycles.com/models/anniversary/introduction

???????????????? erm, no.

Edited October 14, 2019 by Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

[i24]

They're actually not, if you read the amendment properly. Also, JP Smith has come out and said that they're definitely not. Bold bit is the text. Nowhere does it say lane splitting will be illegal. It DOES say that motos cannot ride 2 abreast in the same lane, and that 2 motos cannot simultaneously pass the same car. Which is logical. 

 

The amended by-law states: “People, other than authorised officials in the performance of their duties, driving (sic) motorcycles on a public road, shall drive in single file except in the course of overtaking another motorcycle, and two or more persons driving motorcycles shall not overtake another vehicle at the same time: Provided that where a public road is divided into traffic lanes, each such lane shall, for the purposes of this paragraph, be regarded as a public road.”

 

I am not sure what they are trying to achieve. My experience trying to ride in single file in the middle of the lane, is that an SUV or a Taxi tries to overtake you by squeezing past in the 1/2 lane on one or the other side when you slow down for traffic or a robot. Not pleasant at all. You need to have eyes in the back of your head and while scanning the traffic for options for the inevitable evasive manoeuvre.

 

That paragraph looks poorly worded, it achieves nothing and it won't and probably cannot be enforced. Maybe I should add a comment to the City website:

 

http://www.capetown.gov.za/City-Connect/Have-your-say/Issues-open-for-public-comment/draft-traffic-by-law

[patches]

I am not sure what they are trying to achieve. My experience trying to ride in single file in the middle of the lane, is that an SUV or a Taxi tries to overtake you by squeezing past in the 1/2 lane on one or the other side when you slow down for traffic or a robot. Not pleasant at all. You need to have eyes in the back of your head and while scanning the traffic for options for the inevitable evasive manoeuvre.

 

That paragraph looks poorly worded, it achieves nothing and it won't and probably cannot be enforced. Maybe I should add a comment to the City website:

 

http://www.capetown.gov.za/City-Connect/Have-your-say/Issues-open-for-public-comment/draft-traffic-by-law

 

Here in NZ they have the RideForever safe riding courses.

 

They are subsidized by the government and every rider is entitled to 2 per year at no cost/$20 (depending on availability). There are multiple levels: Scooter, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Racing, to cater for all sorts.

 

I went on a bronze course last year before I did my Restricted Licence (3 license levels in NZ) test and it was amazing. An instructor kits everyone with a comms unit and then they takes the group (5 or so) out on a ride. Occasionally they'll stop in quiet location and go through some techniques/drills. The whole thing lasts about 6hrs.

 

One of the biggest things I learnt on the course is that the safest place to ride is inline with a car's right tyres, when travelling straight. It changes when cornering or blind crests.

 

Some of the reasons being:

• Riders are more visible to cars at side-roads on left.
• When riders are behind cars they are more visible to oncoming traffic (less chance of an oncoming car overtaking the car in front of them once they pass the car in front of you).
• Riders have more visibility of what's down the road.
• Riders have more space to move over when passing large oncoming trucks etc.
• Cars will not try overtake you in your own lane

If that was all I learnt that day, it was priceless.

[davetapson]

Here in NZ they have the RideForever safe riding courses.

 

They are subsidized by the government and every rider is entitled to 2 per year at no cost/$20 (depending on availability). There are multiple levels: Scooter, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Racing, to cater for all sorts.

 

I went on a bronze course last year before I did my Restricted Licence (3 license levels in NZ) test and it was amazing. An instructor kits everyone with a comms unit and then they takes the group (5 or so) out on a ride. Occasionally they'll stop in quiet location and go through some techniques/drills. The whole thing lasts about 6hrs.

 

One of the biggest things I learnt on the course is that the safest place to ride is inline with a car's right tyres, when travelling straight. It changes when cornering or blind crests.

 

Some of the reasons being:

• Riders are more visible to cars at side-roads on left.
• When riders are behind cars they are more visible to oncoming traffic (less chance of an oncoming car overtaking the car in front of them once they pass the car in front of you).
• Riders have more visibility of what's down the road.
• Riders have more space to move over when passing large oncoming trucks etc.
• Cars will not try overtake you in your own lane

If that was all I learnt that day, it was priceless.

 

It's amazing how often it's just one thing, but that one thing is a life saver.  For me, in the UK, it was 'make eye contact with anyone who has the potential to flatten you' - i.e. at an intersection, any car that will turn in your path.

 

The reasoning being, that if you've made eye contact, they've 'seen' you.  If you can't make eye contact, assume they have not seen you, and act accordingly.

 

The number of times I've made eye contact and the driver has visibly reacted shows how often they just don't see you until you make yourself obvious - by the eye contact thing.

 

It's not a staring competition or anything, just enough so that you know they've seen you.

 

Works for cycling too.