Jakkals. Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Be that as it may, Shimano rules the industry, and what they do goes whether we as consumers like it or not. They probably sell 50 groupsets for every 1 that Campy and Sram move out the door. It's very simple ~ when Shimano sneezes, the cycling industry gets a cold. And right now their sneeze is blowing out 11 speed. Be that as it may, every campy user smiles every time they shift.
SwissVan Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Di2 11 speed.....after initial set up done correctly no finicky adjustments...druk knob, click, whirr, pedal all in a flash Touch wood it stays like that
Madone69 Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Be that as it may, Shimano rules the industry, and what they do goes whether we as consumers like it or not. They probably sell 50 groupsets for every 1 that Campy and Sram move out the door. It's very simple ~ when Shimano sneezes, the cycling industry gets a cold. And right now their sneeze is blowing out 11 speed.due to them sneezing and blowing their 11speed out from behind is making the shimano users switch so more difficulty. if they went like campy did. the transition to 11campy from 10 would be pain free . no new wheels, hubs and dishing required. just buy the goods and ride. like plug and play
Butterbean Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I was speaking to the guys at my lbs... They told me that shimano is phasing out ten speed quite aggressively, within the next 6 months... If you have ultegra, and need a new derailer, they will only supply tiagra. Their reasoning is, it's ten speed, so will work. If you want ultegra, it will only be 11 speed replacement parts. It does, in many business ways, make a lot of sense. To carry spares and stock for group sets a few years old now is plain silly. So i guess you may as well go 11 speed. Not for any performance gain, but for the fact that in future, you'll probably be smiling. Resale will be higher too, should you ever sell...
droo Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I find that hard to believe! I don't. Try finding a suspension fork with a 1 1/8" straight steerer and you'll understand. I doubt it's the manufacturers that are phasing out, most likely just the local distributor.
fanievb Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I find that hard to believe!Same argument as with 26 v 29 shops don't stock it cause its not the "in" thing and it's easier to tell customers that it's not available than to explain why there is no stock
HeyYou Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 not sure there's a problem!!! Don't know Shamano, but certainly any Campag 11spd hub takes 10 speeds and with a bit of fiddling, a 10 spd hub will take 11. I suspect Sham will be the same.
bmw1za Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 10 speed freewheel to 11 speed mod engineering shop wanted to charge me R800 plus labour to cut 1mm off a freewheel so that an 11 speed cassette could fit Curse you Zipp (lol) replacing the freewheel was almost R3000 ... shocked face ... One of my buddies did it for R350 , took a whole 10 seconds
raptor-22 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I'll stick to 10 speed for the moment. No gain from 11 speed, more sensitive to adjustments, dirt etc. I've found the high and low ratios important and I've always had enough gears in between (8, 9 and 10 speed). As for future availability 10 speed will be around for a long time. I still source 8 speed road components without a hassle. May be a case for 1 X 11 MTB though. bingo!
raptor-22 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I was speaking to the guys at my lbs... They told me that shimano is phasing out ten speed quite aggressively, within the next 6 months... If you have ultegra, and need a new derailer, they will only supply tiagra. Their reasoning is, it's ten speed, so will work. If you want ultegra, it will only be 11 speed replacement parts. It does, in many business ways, make a lot of sense. To carry spares and stock for group sets a few years old now is plain silly. So i guess you may as well go 11 speed. Not for any performance gain, but for the fact that in future, you'll probably be smiling. Resale will be higher too, should you ever sell... then www.chainreactioncycles.com orwww.totalcycling.com plenty 10 speed zooty high end parts at great prices
Sharkie 2 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Upgrading to 11spd with Shimano you don't need new freewheel body
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Upgrading to 11spd with Shimano you don't need new freewheel bodyon MTB, yes. Road, new freehub body is required.
bmw1za Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 on MTB, yes. Road, new freehub body is required.Totally correct , only Mavics are 11 speed ready
PJP2013 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 then www.chainreactioncycles.com orwww.totalcycling.com plenty 10 speed zooty high end parts at great prices Shimano Distributors in SA sometimes don't even have 11 speed components....... had to order 6800 chain rings from another source earlier this year.
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