Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[dave303e]

Norrie Williamson has always been a strong advocate of the run walk strategy and has used it himself with great success.  His point is that very few runners actually clock up sufficient km to be able to run (race) the distance of an entire marathon or ultra marathon comfortably.  Invariably negative splits are a fantasy of most amateur marathon runners because of this.  So the solution thus is to take control over the level and progress of fatigue on the body from the onset of the race.  By having scheduled walking intervals, the body is given time to recover and convert stored energy thereby preventing "hitting the wall". 

 

Walking is unnecessary if you have trained sufficiently (ie your peak weekly distance is twice the race distance, you have done interval sessions at just faster (10sec/km faster) than race pace, have done long runs of 2/3 of the distance just short of 1min/km slower than race pace ext). 

 

And who said all these rules are definites? Never run an interval session in my life and don't plan on it, doesn't mean I can't run a sub 3:30 marathon.

Think there are far too many reading books and not making up their own mind just following what is said in 1 book. My opinion is that having read multiple books and articles and using supplied information and knowledge of their own body, is what each persone needs to do to decide what actually works for them. Someone who spends all day every day on their feet walking can't train the same way someone who sits at a desk all day does, if you have 3 hours a day or if you have 45 mins a day to train you need to train as best you can, doesn't mean your results must suffer, it is all about making the best of what you have in front of you. 

My 2c is that running 3-4 times a week for 5 years straight will make you a far better runner than running 6 days a week for the 6 months leading to comrades and then couch surfing for 3 months after and half @rse training the rest. 

[CobusV]

I've run/walk'd a few half marathons at 1:45 or less. Albeit, walking was restricted to the water points only. Grab Coke at the first table, drink that whilst walking, grab water sachet at the last table and start running again. 3 to 4 km later? it starts all over again.

 

Do not disregard run/walk. It actually works!

 

I must admit. During the second half of any marathon I also walk through plenty of the refreshment stations. But this scheme described here seems way too eloborate.

 

Ek wil hardloop, nie wiskunde doen nie..

[ScottCM]

Shot in the dark here, Does anyone know of a 32km event between Vaal (4 March) and 1 April ?

My searching skill produced Zero. 

[candz1]

There is the Umgeni Water marathon in KZN, not sure if that helps you.

 

Sorry forgot to include the link.

 

http://www.collegiansharriers.co.za/umgeni.htm

Edited February 8, 2018 by candz1

[Hacc]

Shot in the dark here, Does anyone know of a 32km event between Vaal (4 March) and 1 April ?

My searching skill produced Zero. 

None that I know of. Only Sunrise Monster on the 3rd of March and the Hot Legs Run, the 4th. 

[Stretch]

 

 

We do walk very fast as per norm and obviously train this even more. There was a LOT of times in Comrades where we walked behind bunches that tried to run (shuffle) inclines and we walked right behind them the whole way up.

 

 

All my mates rip me off about my walk...I often walk past runners on the hills![emoji23]

[Craai]

Shot in the dark here, Does anyone know of a 32km event between Vaal (4 March) and 1 April ?

My searching skill produced Zero. 

Ironman training? 

[CobusV]

Shot in the dark here, Does anyone know of a 32km event between Vaal (4 March) and 1 April ?

My searching skill produced Zero. 

If you're looking only for a training run and not necessarily a race, go and do day 2 of the Randburg Harriers Easter 100 (31st of March). Chilled but toughish 30km through Randburg/Roodepoort. 

[Lexx]

I'm so bloody jealous. Everyone has a lekker club to train with. I am doing all my training all by my lonesome self. Lol.

[Craai]

Shot in the dark here, Does anyone know of a 32km event between Vaal (4 March) and 1 April ?

My searching skill produced Zero. 

Not sure in which area you are, but there are a number of 21km in Pretoria area throughout March. I'm doing a few of these with a 5km on either side of the race (5km warm up 5km cool down) giving me as near as damn it to 32km

[SeaBee]

I'm so bloody jealous. Everyone has a lekker club to train with. I am doing all my training all by my lonesome self. Lol.

Haha, same boat! I belong to a club but my working hours (or rather travelling to work hours) makes my training times fall a bit outside the normal "early run" time-frame. And on weekends I want to get done early to get some family time.

 

At last it seems most of my niggly bits are starting to get sorted. Now I must just teach the legs to run further than the singular half training run I did this year... 

[ScottCM]

None that I know of. Only Sunrise Monster on the 3rd of March and the Hot Legs Run, the 4th. 

 

YEah saw those but have already entered the half at Vaal and hate wasting money necessarily else i would have done one of them, but thank you. 

 

Ironman training? 

 

Yebo Yes Sir

 

If you're looking only for a training run and not necessarily a race, go and do day 2 of the Randburg Harriers Easter 100 (31st of March). Chilled but toughish 30km through Randburg/Roodepoort. 

 

I shall investigate this as this seems like an idea, thank you

 

Not sure in which area you are, but there are a number of 21km in Pretoria area throughout March. I'm doing a few of these with a 5km on either side of the race (5km warm up 5km cool down) giving me as near as damn it to 32km

 

This sounds like a plan as i'm doing Township and Vaal Half 

[Stretch]

I'm so bloody jealous. Everyone has a lekker club to train with. I am doing all my training all by my lonesome self. Lol.

I prefer it.. I've always done that.

[Hacc]

I'm so bloody jealous. Everyone has a lekker club to train with. I am doing all my training all by my lonesome self. Lol.

Start a Komatipoort running group / club. 

 

I trained for my first Comrades all by myself. I didn't know anything about club runs etc.

I enjoy running with club mates, but I do prefer at least one run a week all by myself just to refocus and to enjoy the "me" time.

[shaper]

Run, swim and cycle alone.  Only time I train with someone is a mate on our long weekend rides.

 

Personally being able to pull yourself out of bed, and to train on your own helps the mental strength.

[Lexx]

Start a Komatipoort running group / club.

 

I trained for my first Comrades all by myself. I didn't know anything about club runs etc.

I enjoy running with club mates, but I do prefer at least one run a week all by myself just to refocus and to enjoy the "me" time.

There is a running club here. But they only run short runs every now and again. We are not really on good speaking terms. I had a fallout with the clubs administration. We had different views on things at our club and how it should change so it could help everyone. But the "click" in our club thought I was just talking sh@t. So I showed them the middle finger and left couple of years ago.