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[Harryn]

Today was the first time I've failed to reach my target on one ride since the start of the year. A measly 300 points for a 265 minute ride at 78% of DiscoMAX... just seems so wrong that only 2% higher would have been 1500 points.

 

This should have been 600 points but considering they stop awarding points at 90 minutes (70%) today was a good training ride.

 

 

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I did a 1 hr IDT ride today. As i am riding tomorrow, I Did not wanna push it for the whole hour, but knew if i slowed down in the second half it would reduce my average hr to below 80%. Meaning a lousy 100 points. Solution: I klapped it for 40 mins, and ended my Garmin workout, and then restarted my Garmin on a fresh workout. Kaching, 300 points.

Pathetic and ridiculous that I actually did that. Worse that I am admitting to it. But really stupid that one has to prematurely end recording, or cut a Workout short, to get more points.

[shaper]

Also did a 5hr training ride at average 77% HR for 300 points... frustrating for sure.

[Lands250]

They seem to be bumping me up 100 points per week. Target now 500. At this rate it will become a real challenge fairly soon. Also not going to overdo things just to please Discovery. I'm actually glad I opted to buy a Fenix rather than choose Discovery's so called subsidized Apple Watch.

 

 

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Edited April 16, 2016 by Lands250

[Harryn]

Hi Guys

 

I do virtual rides with my cyclops IDT, but when i load the FIT/TCX file to garmin connect it doesnt show the calories and also disco doesnt pick it up?

 

Anyone have a solution to this?

I assume that you are downloading the file from Virtual Training and then manually uploading to GC? It's better to just run your Garmin, assuming you have one.

 

If you don't, then send the workout from Virtual Training to Strava, and then to Tapiriik, then to GC then to Discovery (i have never done this, so maybe someone else can confirm if this would work).

[Marq001]

I assume that you are downloading the file from Virtual Training and then manually uploading to GC? It's better to just run your Garmin, assuming you have one.

 

If you don't, then send the workout from Virtual Training to Strava, and then to Tapiriik, then to GC then to Discovery (i have never done this, so maybe someone else can confirm if this would work).

 

Well tried both, manual download and from stava/tapirik still nothing. Using a Garmin edge, 

[Veebee]

My goal went up by 100 and now sits at 400, done in 1 ride.

 

Coming back after a week of having a cold, my heart rate was slightly elevated which made it easy...

[Patchelicious]

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Edited April 17, 2016 by Patchelicious

[carbon29er]

That is interesting, especially since you were making it so easily before.

Im just going to train as normal and see what happens, I wont change my training to suit what discovery wants.

And sanity prevails. At last.

[carbon29er]

Hi Guys

 

I do virtual rides with my cyclops IDT, but when i load the FIT/TCX file to garmin connect it doesnt show the calories and also disco doesnt pick it up?

 

Anyone have a solution to this?

 

 

I assume that you are downloading the file from Virtual Training and then manually uploading to GC? It's better to just run your Garmin, assuming you have one.

 

If you don't, then send the workout from Virtual Training to Strava, and then to Tapiriik, then to GC then to Discovery (i have never done this, so maybe someone else can confirm if this would work).

 

Unless it's recorded on a Garmin or Polar it won't count on Disco, even if recorded on the IDT system. I have the same problem with Tacx.

 

Syncing from wherever to GC via Tapiriik is now a waste of time if you are doing it to get it onto GC to get Disco points, that door closed on April 2.

 

The only way to get Disco points is to use the correct device and load it onto Garmin or Polar.

 

Although, to be honest, I have not tried to load a manual workout onto Polar since Disco started accepting Garmin for exercise a while ago, it was possible to load Garmin onto Polar with some ballache to get 100 points. If I wasn't maxed out on points for 2016 maybe I would try that. Will have to look for my notes.

[Frosty]

Apply for a re-mark,lol

 

I did a 1 hr IDT ride today. As i am riding tomorrow, I Did not wanna push it for the whole hour, but knew if i slowed down in the second half it would reduce my average hr to below 80%. Meaning a lousy 100 points. Solution: I klapped it for 40 mins, and ended my Garmin workout, and then restarted my Garmin on a fresh workout. Kaching, 300 points.

Pathetic and ridiculous that I actually did that. Worse that I am admitting to it. But really stupid that one has to prematurely end recording, or cut a Workout short, to get more points.

My target is 500, so I'll get there on my next ride anyway.

 

Discovery obviously don't want people doing one ride (activity) and achieving the goal, so it's understandable but just not logical.

[shaper]

5hr ride at 77% for 300 points yesterday

35min run today at 87% for 300 points (my HR always significantly higher when running)

500 points achieved so expect to be on 600 next week.

 

At what point do you have 2 garmin accounts, one for Discovery to show that you are only just achieving the points, hoping that it does not increase each week.... and another garmin account not linked to Discovery so that you can monitor your training?

 

Anyone have an idea what the upper limit will be with this new points system? 1200 like before?

[carbon29er]

5hr ride at 77% for 300 points yesterday

35min run today at 87% for 300 points (my HR always significantly higher when running)

500 points achieved so expect to be on 600 next week.

 

At what point do you have 2 garmin accounts, one for Discovery to show that you are only just achieving the points, hoping that it does not increase each week.... and another garmin account not linked to Discovery so that you can monitor your training?

 

Anyone have an idea what the upper limit will be with this new points system? 1200 like before?

Two in place since April 2. Miraculously the one linked to Disco only logs the activity to achieve target. The other remains linked to Strava and is used to monitor my training.

 

Silly really. Almost embarrassing to admit.

[splat]

Apply for a re-mark,lol

 

I did a 1 hr IDT ride today. As i am riding tomorrow, I Did not wanna push it for the whole hour, but knew if i slowed down in the second half it would reduce my average hr to below 80%. Meaning a lousy 100 points. Solution: I klapped it for 40 mins, and ended my Garmin workout, and then restarted my Garmin on a fresh workout. Kaching, 300 points.

Pathetic and ridiculous that I actually did that. Worse that I am admitting to it. But really stupid that one has to prematurely end recording, or cut a Workout short, to get more points.

 

 

5hr ride at 77% for 300 points yesterday

35min run today at 87% for 300 points (my HR always significantly higher when running)

500 points achieved so expect to be on 600 next week.

 

At what point do you have 2 garmin accounts, one for Discovery to show that you are only just achieving the points, hoping that it does not increase each week.... and another garmin account not linked to Discovery so that you can monitor your training?

 

Anyone have an idea what the upper limit will be with this new points system? 1200 like before?

 

 

Two in place since April 2. Miraculously the one linked to Disco only logs the activity to achieve target. The other remains linked to Strava and is used to monitor my training.

 

Silly really. Almost embarrassing to admit.

 

And here we have people manipulating their results to achieve points. Not in a dishonest way, mind you.

But isn't this one of the reasons that Vitality did the whole crackdown in the 1st place?

[carbon29er]

Yes, you are right. Reality is the system is stupidly skewed towards 80% workouts with no recognition of 70% endurance. So I report what earns me and my mates a coffee. No more, no less.

 

Today I did my first 90+ minute spin since my accident. I ran my Garmin from when I was warm for 35 minutes at 80%+ of TMHR (Theoretical aged based) and switched it off for my 300 points. Unusually the 90 minute workout also exceeded 80% of TMHR and I would have got 600 points but had it been 3 beats lower over 90 minutes I would have got 100 points. My Tacx recording is no longer acceptable despite having all the data I need so I have to load onto GC using a Garmin. Which does not record power.

 

Am I manipulating? Yes. Am I claiming points for work not done? No.

 

But at 98,950 points for the year it's all about playing the game and coffee, not points.

[slickandtyred]

I assume that you are downloading the file from Virtual Training and then manually uploading to GC? It's better to just run your Garmin, assuming you have one.

 

If you don't, then send the workout from Virtual Training to Strava, and then to Tapiriik, then to GC then to Discovery (i have never done this, so maybe someone else can confirm if this would work).

Nope. I sent data from Trainingpeaks to Strava to Garmin Connect using Tapiriik. Garmin Connect to Disco. Disco to not accept the data as it's considered to be from an in known source.

 

Have discussed the authenticity of Trainingpeaks data to Disco but they are not at all interested.

 

Solution: If you want the points it's more convenient and acceptable (in Disco's view) to just swipe your gym card 3 times per week to get the minimum points. After that do not upload subsequent points for the week then you required total will not increase either. Basically, 1 swipe for points and the other 2 swipes to collect your weekly smoothies.

 

Pathetic really since some of us are actually exercising but Disco will not acknowledge same

[shaper]

And here we have people manipulating their results to achieve points. Not in a dishonest way, mind you.

But isn't this one of the reasons that Vitality did the whole crackdown in the 1st place?

They cracked down because people were claiming points without doing the activity, here we are now looking at claiming less points for the workouts we do.

 

I do not see it as manipulating the system, discovery are requesting that we get X points a week to get a reward.... there is nothing in the t&c's that says we have to advise them we got further additional points than what is required.

 

You get the points requested you get rewarded, you get additional points for further workouts you get no benefit and possibly a negative benefit as your weekly points may go up.

 

As long as you hit the target, then that is all I see I need to inform discovery about, nothing further!