Discovery Health - Vitality & Team Vitality plus everything else you need to know

[Dexter-morgan]

Did this. Unfortunately the data then shows on Garmin as being from an unknown source. Disco would not accept it. This after numerous emails and calls.

 

Solution: I have removed Disco from Strava and Garmin. I can train in peace knowing that I am not providing Disco and co with free data which they then sell to 3rd parties. My T's and Cs.

 

Smoothies make me fat(ter) anyway. Vitality points already maxed.

Our points are also maxed but my wife works for Gym discount R180 per month, I joined before 2010 so I am free.

[shaper]

That's what they want you to do, they win this way.

Payback time... for many years the 80% who never got off blue funded the perks us who got to Gold enjoyed... now it looks like we are being squeezed out for enjoying too much of a good thing !!

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Payback time... for many years the 80% who never got off blue funded the perks us who got to Gold enjoyed... now it looks like we are being squeezed out for enjoying too much of a good thing !!

Nah, we save them looooooods of cash. Seriously, bro. It's huge the amount we actually save them from a claims perspective, and retention ratios. 

[BarHugger]

I understand the the Sherf gave them a bit of a walloping on the radio yesterday..........

[Frosty]

I agree with Myles, the amount of savings is enough of a motivator to keep me interested.

 

• I'm already in credit on Team Vitality;
• Gym doesn't cost me anything;
• So far the wife is enjoying the Watch on my profile - no payments as yet;
• The smoothies are nice - but I wouldn't buy them if it wasn't part of the perk;
• The cash back from the card purchases - also covers all month transactions fees and annual card fees.

[Frosty]

I understand the the Sherf gave them a bit of a walloping on the radio yesterday..........

Freedom of speech... 

[nathrix]

Nah, we save them looooooods of cash. Seriously, bro. It's huge the amount we actually save them from a claims perspective, and retention ratios. 

 

The problem I have with Discovery is the way it's implemented, in short:

 

They should award more points when your HR is above 50% the longer you ride. Riding for a long time 70< HR of your max everyday is ridiculous, will take you that much longer to recover and I think dangerous. They should also award you for every ride for that day, not choose just one. This way we all get fit by training more and longer!

 

Simply put e.g.

 

50< HR for 30 minutes = 50 points

50< HR for 60 minutes = 100 points

50< HR for 90 minutes = 150 points

50< HR for 120 minutes = 200 points

50< HR for 150 minutes = 250 points

50< HR for 180 minutes = 300 points

50< HR for 210 minutes = 350 points

50< HR for 240 minutes = 400 points

50< HR for 270 minutes = 450 points

50< HR for 300 minutes = 500 points

50< HR for 330 minutes = 550 points

50< HR for 360< minutes = 600 points

 

Nothing to do with freedom of speech, it's common sense and my two zim cents

[Frosty]

The problem I have with Discovery is the way it's implemented, in short:

 

They should award more points when your HR is above 50% the longer you ride. Riding for a long time 70< HR of your max everyday is ridiculous, will take you that much longer to recover and I think dangerous. They should also award you for every ride for that day, not choose just one. This way we all get fit by training more and longer!

 

Simply put e.g.

 

50< HR for 30 minutes = 50 points

50< HR for 60 minutes = 100 points

50< HR for 90 minutes = 150 points

50< HR for 120 minutes = 200 points

50< HR for 150 minutes = 250 points

50< HR for 180 minutes = 300 points

50< HR for 210 minutes = 350 points

50< HR for 240 minutes = 400 points

50< HR for 270 minutes = 450 points

50< HR for 300 minutes = 500 points

50< HR for 330 minutes = 550 points

50< HR for 360< minutes = 600 points

 

Nothing to do with freedom of speech, it's common sense and my two zim cents

Sounds very much like what was mentioned on the radio yesterday, but not in as much detail. It's actually very simple to understand.

[Cheese]

The problem I have with Discovery is the way it's implemented, in short:

 

They should award more points when your HR is above 50% the longer you ride. Riding for a long time 70< HR of your max everyday is ridiculous, will take you that much longer to recover and I think dangerous. They should also award you for every ride for that day, not choose just one. This way we all get fit by training more and longer!

 

Simply put e.g.

 

50< HR for 30 minutes = 50 points

50< HR for 60 minutes = 100 points

50< HR for 90 minutes = 150 points

50< HR for 120 minutes = 200 points

50< HR for 150 minutes = 250 points

50< HR for 180 minutes = 300 points

50< HR for 210 minutes = 350 points

50< HR for 240 minutes = 400 points

50< HR for 270 minutes = 450 points

50< HR for 300 minutes = 500 points

50< HR for 330 minutes = 550 points

50< HR for 360< minutes = 600 points

 

Nothing to do with freedom of speech, it's common sense and my two zim cents

Above 50% is not training.

Above 70% is not really an issue and can be achieved easily 5 times per week.

[Frosty]

Above 50% is not training.

Above 70% is not really an issue and can be achieved easily 5 times per week.

For a beginner, 50% IS training - and if they want to target so many of them they need to start the minimum level lower than 70%. 60-70% for intermediate level and 70-85% for very fit.

 

Active recovery is also part of training and shouldn't be at >70% but 50-65%.

 

edit: but this get's complicated, as it means they need to track each individual and that leads to problems like we currently experience.

Lowering the minimum, and allowing an increased range of points across the duration makes so much more sense, until there is enough data for each person to then set specific goals.

Edited April 22, 2016 by geraldm24

[nathrix]

Above 50% is not training.

Above 70% is not really an issue and can be achieved easily 5 times per week.

 

70%, 80%, or 90% is no issue, for 5 minutes 10 minutes 30 minutes or an hour? The question is, for how long and for how many consecutive days? Is it good to train like that every day, logically I personally don't think so.

[BarHugger]

Above 50% is not training.

Above 70% is not really an issue and can be achieved easily 5 times per week.

From what I understand the entire thing is based on average.......so Nathrix makes a good argument.......

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

For a beginner, 50% IS training - and if they want to target so many of them they need to start the minimum level lower than 70%. 60-70% for intermediate level and 70-85% for very fit.

 

Active recovery is also part of training and shouldn't be at >70% but 50-65%.

 

edit: but this get's complicated, as it means they need to track each individual and that leads to problems like we currently experience.

Lowering the minimum, and allowing an increased range of points across the duration makes so much more sense, until there is enough data for each person to then set specific goals.

Disagree with your top point there, Gerald. For me (and generally unfit people) it's far easier to hit 70/80/90 % of their age rated max. I personally feel that Moderate should be 60-70 and vigorous 70+, as it was before - but stagger the points as Nathrix has suggested. 

 

Either that, or start off with 80%+ for the 30 minute efforts and taper down to 60%+ for the longest efforts. 

[Frosty]

Disagree with your top point there, Gerald. For me (and generally unfit people) it's far easier to hit 70/80/90 % of their age rated max. I personally feel that Moderate should be 60-70 and vigorous 70+, as it was before - but stagger the points as Nathrix has suggested.

 

Either that, or start off with 80%+ for the 30 minute efforts and taper down to 60%+ for the longest efforts.

That's why I'm not in the medical field... [emoji12]

[Frosty]

The unfit person should be able to achieve high rates but is it good to be hitting the high heart rates when starting out? I don't think so

 

 

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[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

The unfit person should be able to achieve high rates but is it good to be hitting the high heart rates when starting out? I don't think so

 

 

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I tried keeping my HR below 70% on a ride the other day. Damn near impossible.