Wheel building

[Madone69]

@nick_the_wheelbuilder

Some wheel builders use the tiny washers between the spoke end and the hub....what's the reason for this and why do you not use them as per some pics

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

52 minutes ago, Madone69 said:

@nick_the_wheelbuilder

Some wheel builders use the tiny washers between the spoke end and the hub....what's the reason for this and why do you not use them as per some pics

In the old days the spoke hols in the hubs were inconsistent sizes or oversized, or the hub flanges were not at ideal angles. Or spokes had variable thicknesses.
The spoke washers helped the spokes seat more evenly in the spoke holes.

Today's hub and spoke tolerances are incredibly good, so we don't need spoke head washers.

In 10 years of building wheels I've never felt the need to use them.

Maybe @David Marshall can also weigh in here?

[NotSoBigBen]

No idea why you wheel builder chaps say it takes time and concentration to build a wheel 😜 - I mean I slapped together a wheel in under half an hour this morning 😎

OK now that you have stopped laughing, as some of you know I'm well aware of the intricacies of wheel building and that a typical wheel build for me is at least a day or 2 ... and that's an easy one 😕

However I'm busy putting together an absolute minimalist indoor trainer bike, as always looked around my garage to see what I got. Idea is no brakes, 1x ... certainly won't be able to do outside duty

Back wheel I have a damaged deep section, brake surface has been repaired but not safe ... that'll do

Front ..... ha! I have a tubby deep section rim (24 hole)  and one of those, what was cool at the time, purple anodised hub (32 hole) and an assortment of spokes and nipples

Since it only has to hold the bike (and my body) up I didn't have to fuss to much with how well it was built, is it true, is it round etc.

P.S  I can post pics of the IDT bike if anyone is interested 😎

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

15 minutes ago, NotSoBigBen said:

No idea why you wheel builder chaps say it takes time and concentration to build a wheel 😜 - I mean I slapped together a wheel in under half an hour this morning 😎

OK now that you have stopped laughing, as some of you know I'm well aware of the intricacies of wheel building and that a typical wheel build for me is at least a day or 2 ... and that's an easy one 😕

However I'm busy putting together an absolute minimalist indoor trainer bike, as always looked around my garage to see what I got. Idea is no brakes, 1x ... certainly won't be able to do outside duty

Back wheel I have a damaged deep section, brake surface has been repaired but not safe ... that'll do

Front ..... ha! I have a tubby deep section rim (24 hole)  and one of those, what was cool at the time, purple anodised hub (32 hole) and an assortment of spokes and nipples

Since it only has to hold the bike (and my body) up I didn't have to fuss to much with how well it was built, is it true, is it round etc.

P.S  I can post pics of the IDT bike if anyone is interested 😎

24h rim to a 32h hub?
I'm keen to hear how you laced that one up.

Did you skip every 3rd spoke hole on the hub?

[NotSoBigBen]

4 minutes ago, nick_the_wheelbuilder said:

24h rim to a 32h hub?
I'm keen to hear how you laced that one up.

Did you skip every 3rd spoke hole on the hub?

Yip, that's exactly what I did 👍

[dave303e]

5 hours ago, nick_the_wheelbuilder said:

It's been a "weird hub week" here in Wilderness...

• 2x electric hub motors built onto new rims.
• A dynamo hub front wheel build
• A Lefty hub front wheel build

 

that one excites me the most

[Ruben101]

12 hours ago, nick_the_wheelbuilder said:

It's been a "weird hub week" here in Wilderness...

• 2x electric hub motors built onto new rims.
• A dynamo hub front wheel build
• A Lefty hub front wheel build

 

Do you have a special adapter to put the lefty hub on your trueing stand?

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

32 minutes ago, Ruben101 said:

Do you have a special adapter to put the lefty hub on your trueing stand?

Yes I do - it's like a false axle.

Here's a pic.