EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Share Sounds like you all going for the prize money. I dont condemn a cycling cheat or any other form of cheating. But there are instances where people has been caught in social events under provincial umbrella for the use of beta 2 meds even doctors(gp) didnt known this was an illegal substance. However the person was banned for illegal stimulant. (Which was not performance enhancing) How do you ban such a person for life from entering events? Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Share Help me with something, I recently underwent surgery on my hand. During that surgery i was given a steroid (Cortisone) injection into a joint. How long before I can race legally? Never again you cheat... JanJan, BDF and andydude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Share Never again you cheat... Allrightythen... EmptyB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Share Allrightythen... I'm curious too btw....hopefully someone here knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 25, 2016 Share Help me with something, I recently underwent surgery on my hand. During that surgery i was given a steroid (Cortisone) injection into a joint. How long before I can race legally? 2 days, the half life of cortisone is 8-12 hours. In case you popped any others: List of Steroid Detection TimesThe following is a list of anabolic steroid detection times (in alphabetical order):Anadrol (Oxymetholone): 2 monthsAnavar (Oxandrolone): 3 weeksDeca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate): 17 – 18 monthsDianabol (Methandrostenolone): 5 – 6 weeksEquipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate): 4 – 5 monthsHalotestin (Fluoxymesterone): 2 monthsMasteron (Drostanolone Propionate): 2 weeksNandrolone Phenylpropionate: 11 – 12 monthsOmnadren: 3 monthsParabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate): 4 – 5 monthsPrimobolan (oral): 4 – 5 weeksSustanon 250: 3 monthsTestosterone Cypionate: 3 monthsTestosterone Enanthate: 3 monthsTestosterone Propionate: 2 weeksTestosterone Suspension: 1- 3 daysTrenbolone Acetate: 4 – 5 monthsTurinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone): 11 – 12 monthsWinstrol (Stanozolol): 2 months BDF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted October 25, 2016 Share Help me with something, I recently underwent surgery on my hand. During that surgery i was given a steroid (Cortisone) injection into a joint. How long before I can race legally?Just get a TUE [emoji6] Wiggo has a contact.[emoji12] BDF and EmptyB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Share I'm curious too btw....hopefully someone here knows.For sure! Not that I am remotely close to placing anywhere near the podium but I would not like to cheat in any shape or form. (halo appears here!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Share 2 days, the half life of cortisone is 8-12 hours. In case you popped any others: List of Steroid Detection TimesThe following is a list of anabolic steroid detection times (in alphabetical order):Anadrol (Oxymetholone): 2 monthsAnavar (Oxandrolone): 3 weeksDeca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate): 17 – 18 monthsDianabol (Methandrostenolone): 5 – 6 weeksEquipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate): 4 – 5 monthsHalotestin (Fluoxymesterone): 2 monthsMasteron (Drostanolone Propionate): 2 weeksNandrolone Phenylpropionate: 11 – 12 monthsOmnadren: 3 monthsParabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate): 4 – 5 monthsPrimobolan (oral): 4 – 5 weeksSustanon 250: 3 monthsTestosterone Cypionate: 3 monthsTestosterone Enanthate: 3 monthsTestosterone Propionate: 2 weeksTestosterone Suspension: 1- 3 daysTrenbolone Acetate: 4 – 5 monthsTurinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone): 11 – 12 monthsWinstrol (Stanozolol): 2 months Interesting....holy cr@p, I better stay off the Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoatemonths) then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Share 2 days, the half life of cortisone is 8-12 hours. In case you popped any others: List of Steroid Detection TimesThe following is a list of anabolic steroid detection times (in alphabetical order):Anadrol (Oxymetholone): 2 monthsAnavar (Oxandrolone): 3 weeksDeca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate): 17 – 18 monthsDianabol (Methandrostenolone): 5 – 6 weeksEquipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate): 4 – 5 monthsHalotestin (Fluoxymesterone): 2 monthsMasteron (Drostanolone Propionate): 2 weeksNandrolone Phenylpropionate: 11 – 12 monthsOmnadren: 3 monthsParabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate): 4 – 5 monthsPrimobolan (oral): 4 – 5 weeksSustanon 250: 3 monthsTestosterone Cypionate: 3 monthsTestosterone Enanthate: 3 monthsTestosterone Propionate: 2 weeksTestosterone Suspension: 1- 3 daysTrenbolone Acetate: 4 – 5 monthsTurinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone): 11 – 12 monthsWinstrol (Stanozolol): 2 monthsThat was fast Savage! This looks like a shopping basket for some people! Thanks for the info. Half life? what about the other half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Share For sure! Not that I am remotely close to placing anywhere near the podium but I would not like to cheat in any shape or form. (halo appears here!) Nice halo........we're in the same boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Share That was fast Savage! This looks like a shopping basket for some people! Thanks for the info. Half life? what about the other half?And I don't even see Cortisone there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 25, 2016 Share That was fast Savage! This looks like a shopping basket for some people! Thanks for the info. Half life? what about the other half?Next you will want to know about Half Life 3 Spoke101, Skubarra and BDF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 25, 2016 Share And I don't even see Cortisone there? Thats why I added it above, personal experience. BDF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Share Remember Hubber Mugabe? He was always quite vociferous about this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting@89 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Bring the lynch mob because this is going to be a very bold and probably unpopular stance on what should be done about doping. Based on research done by BBC journalist Mark Daly and presented in the documentary BBC Panorama "Catch me if you can" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBqZKOl6LAEven the most stringent testing regimes i.e. the biological passport only catches about 2% of doping cheats. So here is my solution, fans make sport what it is so let the fans decide, host two forms of every competition, race, tournament etc. one where there is a no hold barred dope all you want policy and another clean voluntary drug test weekly to be done at your own expense at approved independent labs. Then see which one of the two attracts the biggest crowds most sponsors and highest prize money. The only reason I suggest this is I am sick of the lie professional sports is selling. At the last couple of IAAF events everyone wore bibs with the message "I run clean", when you need to start repeating a message that loudly that often it becomes akin to propaganda really. My logic behind saying almost everyone does it (except maybe only Van Niekerk) goes like this; supposedly doping gives you such an advantage that it is almost impossible for a clean athlete to compete against doping athletes. Given that we accept that we need to be asking some serious questions about someone like Usain Bolt, almost every single one of Bolt's competitors have been caught doping and served bans (Asafa Powell, Justin Gatlin, Yohan Blake, Tyson Gay to name but a few) yet Bolt manages to beat all of these confirmed dopers consistently, something just doesn't add up! Same goes for nearly every single sport, so all things considered the guys winning are simply better at not getting caught. That's all, rant over. Edited October 26, 2016 by Sitting@89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted October 26, 2016 Share Bring the lynch mob because this is going to be a very bold and probably unpopular stance on what should be done about doping. Based on research done by BBC journalist Mark Daly and presented in the documentary BBC Panorama "Catch me if you can" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBqZKOl6LAEven the most stringent testing regimes i.e. the biological passport only catches about 2% of doping cheats. So here is my solution, fans make sport what it is so let the fans decide, host two forms of every competition, race, tournament etc. one where there is a no hold barred dope all you want policy and another clean voluntary drug test weekly to be done at your own expense at approved independent labs. Then see which one of the two attracts the biggest crowds most sponsors and highest prize money. The only reason I suggest this is I am sick of the lie professional sports is selling. At the last couple of IAAF events everyone wore bibs with the message "I run clean", when you need to start repeating a message that loudly that often it becomes akin to propaganda really. My logic behind saying almost everyone does it (except maybe only Van Niekerk) goes like this; supposedly doping gives you such an advantage that it is almost impossible for a clean athlete to compete against doping athletes. Given that we accept that we need to be asking some serious questions about someone like Usain Bolt, almost every single one of Bolt's competitors have been caught doping and served bans (Asafa Powell, Justin Gatlin, Yohan Blake, Tyson Gay to name but a few) yet Bolt manages to beat all of these confirmed dopers consistently, something just doesn't add up! Same goes for nearly every single sport, so all things considered the guys winning are simply better at not getting caught. That's all, rant over.I didn't know Blake tested positive.. interesting As for Bolt.. I am still sticking to the freak of nature and the perfect physique bit[emoji39] [emoji102] Sitting@89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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