EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Sounds like you all going for the prize money. I dont condemn a cycling cheat or any other form of cheating. But there are instances where people has been caught in social events under provincial umbrella for the use of beta 2 meds even doctors(gp) didnt known this was an illegal substance. However the person was banned for illegal stimulant. (Which was not performance enhancing) How do you ban such a person for life from entering events? Are you sure?
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Help me with something, I recently underwent surgery on my hand. During that surgery i was given a steroid (Cortisone) injection into a joint. How long before I can race legally? Never again you cheat... JanJan, BDF and andydude 3
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Never again you cheat... Allrightythen... EmptyB 1
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Allrightythen... I'm curious too btw....hopefully someone here knows.
Pure Savage Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Help me with something, I recently underwent surgery on my hand. During that surgery i was given a steroid (Cortisone) injection into a joint. How long before I can race legally? 2 days, the half life of cortisone is 8-12 hours. In case you popped any others: List of Steroid Detection TimesThe following is a list of anabolic steroid detection times (in alphabetical order):Anadrol (Oxymetholone): 2 monthsAnavar (Oxandrolone): 3 weeksDeca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate): 17 – 18 monthsDianabol (Methandrostenolone): 5 – 6 weeksEquipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate): 4 – 5 monthsHalotestin (Fluoxymesterone): 2 monthsMasteron (Drostanolone Propionate): 2 weeksNandrolone Phenylpropionate: 11 – 12 monthsOmnadren: 3 monthsParabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate): 4 – 5 monthsPrimobolan (oral): 4 – 5 weeksSustanon 250: 3 monthsTestosterone Cypionate: 3 monthsTestosterone Enanthate: 3 monthsTestosterone Propionate: 2 weeksTestosterone Suspension: 1- 3 daysTrenbolone Acetate: 4 – 5 monthsTurinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone): 11 – 12 monthsWinstrol (Stanozolol): 2 months BDF 1
Gen Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Help me with something, I recently underwent surgery on my hand. During that surgery i was given a steroid (Cortisone) injection into a joint. How long before I can race legally?Just get a TUE [emoji6] Wiggo has a contact.[emoji12] BDF and EmptyB 2
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 I'm curious too btw....hopefully someone here knows.For sure! Not that I am remotely close to placing anywhere near the podium but I would not like to cheat in any shape or form. (halo appears here!)
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 2 days, the half life of cortisone is 8-12 hours. In case you popped any others: List of Steroid Detection TimesThe following is a list of anabolic steroid detection times (in alphabetical order):Anadrol (Oxymetholone): 2 monthsAnavar (Oxandrolone): 3 weeksDeca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate): 17 – 18 monthsDianabol (Methandrostenolone): 5 – 6 weeksEquipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate): 4 – 5 monthsHalotestin (Fluoxymesterone): 2 monthsMasteron (Drostanolone Propionate): 2 weeksNandrolone Phenylpropionate: 11 – 12 monthsOmnadren: 3 monthsParabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate): 4 – 5 monthsPrimobolan (oral): 4 – 5 weeksSustanon 250: 3 monthsTestosterone Cypionate: 3 monthsTestosterone Enanthate: 3 monthsTestosterone Propionate: 2 weeksTestosterone Suspension: 1- 3 daysTrenbolone Acetate: 4 – 5 monthsTurinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone): 11 – 12 monthsWinstrol (Stanozolol): 2 months Interesting....holy cr@p, I better stay off the Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoatemonths) then!!
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 2 days, the half life of cortisone is 8-12 hours. In case you popped any others: List of Steroid Detection TimesThe following is a list of anabolic steroid detection times (in alphabetical order):Anadrol (Oxymetholone): 2 monthsAnavar (Oxandrolone): 3 weeksDeca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate): 17 – 18 monthsDianabol (Methandrostenolone): 5 – 6 weeksEquipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate): 4 – 5 monthsHalotestin (Fluoxymesterone): 2 monthsMasteron (Drostanolone Propionate): 2 weeksNandrolone Phenylpropionate: 11 – 12 monthsOmnadren: 3 monthsParabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate): 4 – 5 monthsPrimobolan (oral): 4 – 5 weeksSustanon 250: 3 monthsTestosterone Cypionate: 3 monthsTestosterone Enanthate: 3 monthsTestosterone Propionate: 2 weeksTestosterone Suspension: 1- 3 daysTrenbolone Acetate: 4 – 5 monthsTurinabol (4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone): 11 – 12 monthsWinstrol (Stanozolol): 2 monthsThat was fast Savage! This looks like a shopping basket for some people! Thanks for the info. Half life? what about the other half?
EmptyB Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 For sure! Not that I am remotely close to placing anywhere near the podium but I would not like to cheat in any shape or form. (halo appears here!) Nice halo........we're in the same boat
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 That was fast Savage! This looks like a shopping basket for some people! Thanks for the info. Half life? what about the other half?And I don't even see Cortisone there?
Pure Savage Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 That was fast Savage! This looks like a shopping basket for some people! Thanks for the info. Half life? what about the other half?Next you will want to know about Half Life 3 Skubarra, BDF and Spoke101 3
Pure Savage Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 And I don't even see Cortisone there? Thats why I added it above, personal experience. BDF 1
BDF Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Remember Hubber Mugabe? He was always quite vociferous about this topic.
Sitting@89 Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Bring the lynch mob because this is going to be a very bold and probably unpopular stance on what should be done about doping. Based on research done by BBC journalist Mark Daly and presented in the documentary BBC Panorama "Catch me if you can" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBqZKOl6LAEven the most stringent testing regimes i.e. the biological passport only catches about 2% of doping cheats. So here is my solution, fans make sport what it is so let the fans decide, host two forms of every competition, race, tournament etc. one where there is a no hold barred dope all you want policy and another clean voluntary drug test weekly to be done at your own expense at approved independent labs. Then see which one of the two attracts the biggest crowds most sponsors and highest prize money. The only reason I suggest this is I am sick of the lie professional sports is selling. At the last couple of IAAF events everyone wore bibs with the message "I run clean", when you need to start repeating a message that loudly that often it becomes akin to propaganda really. My logic behind saying almost everyone does it (except maybe only Van Niekerk) goes like this; supposedly doping gives you such an advantage that it is almost impossible for a clean athlete to compete against doping athletes. Given that we accept that we need to be asking some serious questions about someone like Usain Bolt, almost every single one of Bolt's competitors have been caught doping and served bans (Asafa Powell, Justin Gatlin, Yohan Blake, Tyson Gay to name but a few) yet Bolt manages to beat all of these confirmed dopers consistently, something just doesn't add up! Same goes for nearly every single sport, so all things considered the guys winning are simply better at not getting caught. That's all, rant over. Edited October 26, 2016 by Sitting@89
Gen Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 Bring the lynch mob because this is going to be a very bold and probably unpopular stance on what should be done about doping. Based on research done by BBC journalist Mark Daly and presented in the documentary BBC Panorama "Catch me if you can" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBqZKOl6LAEven the most stringent testing regimes i.e. the biological passport only catches about 2% of doping cheats. So here is my solution, fans make sport what it is so let the fans decide, host two forms of every competition, race, tournament etc. one where there is a no hold barred dope all you want policy and another clean voluntary drug test weekly to be done at your own expense at approved independent labs. Then see which one of the two attracts the biggest crowds most sponsors and highest prize money. The only reason I suggest this is I am sick of the lie professional sports is selling. At the last couple of IAAF events everyone wore bibs with the message "I run clean", when you need to start repeating a message that loudly that often it becomes akin to propaganda really. My logic behind saying almost everyone does it (except maybe only Van Niekerk) goes like this; supposedly doping gives you such an advantage that it is almost impossible for a clean athlete to compete against doping athletes. Given that we accept that we need to be asking some serious questions about someone like Usain Bolt, almost every single one of Bolt's competitors have been caught doping and served bans (Asafa Powell, Justin Gatlin, Yohan Blake, Tyson Gay to name but a few) yet Bolt manages to beat all of these confirmed dopers consistently, something just doesn't add up! Same goes for nearly every single sport, so all things considered the guys winning are simply better at not getting caught. That's all, rant over.I didn't know Blake tested positive.. interesting As for Bolt.. I am still sticking to the freak of nature and the perfect physique bit[emoji39] [emoji102] Sitting@89 1
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