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BMC Racing team officials released a statement confirming Richie Porte has suffered a fractured clavicle and pelvis according to X-rays conducted at Centre Hopitalier Metropole Savoie in Chambéry, France following a horrific, race-ending stage 9 crash at the Tour de France on Sunday. #TDF2017

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Sorry to say chaps and especially to the younger guys but you expect 'gentlemanly behaviour' from today's society? Yes I know I'm getting old (er) and more cynical by the day but that is my general observation ... Every man for himself it appears! Those who believe in upholding traditions are few and far between, behold the 'it's a bike race not a fun ride' type comments

 

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It seems that the downs are the new place to attack.

 

I was trying to understand the speeds involved - would be good to compare average speeds on the downhill versus 20 years ago. I am not sure of my information but the gold standard in those days was, i am lead to believe, Stephen Roche's 112kmh on a pyrenean descent. Now you hear of 134 kmh on some of those descents. THis is the Alps - the mountains to come are steeper and less guarded. 

 

Given thta Richie caused his own accident by going off the LHS, it was really his fault, and he was lucky he fell across the road in to a "barrier" which stopped him vanishing down the mountain at 72 kmh.

 

Is it me or are the riders attacking the downhills much more aggressively ?

 

And as a consequence smaller errors in bike handling have much higher consequences as the speeds are so much higher. A relatively average bike handler is now very exposed and the descents carry much higher value and risks. No more recovery on the way down. Alos the peloton has degenerated in to an unruly mob? IN the past the heads of state could call the shots, but now the youngsters have ade it in to a free for all, so downhill is the new place to gain minutes and time by taking insane risks ?

 

Also, does anyone else start fearing we will see a rider killed on a descent soon? From a protection point of view, Lycra and a Polystyrene foam helmet are not really going to help you much.

 

For me it seems like the point Formula 1 came to in 1994 with Senna's death. Someone prominent had to die to force change. Do we really want to see this in cycling, or am i stating the obvious and its already accepted as a risk with deaths in the Giro a couple of years ago, Casartelli and others (only these spring to mind) etc being part of the risks of being a major cycling hero? Adds to the romanticism of the sport - Omerta and all....

 

There are so many crashes and the result is being determined by this, in the green and yellow jerseys. Not by the strongest guy up the mountain, but the fastest guys down the mountain. GC position 2 - Thomas and Porte was in i think 4th? Gone in crashes....

 

THis is different to Froome's crashes on the cobbles IMO...

 

Also the sprints are hectic:

 

Surely the riders also get tired of having to drag through multiple tight corners at high speed, with traffic obstacles and narrowing roads, to be able to sprint in the middle of town? they could make the drag in to the edge of town rather than finish in the centre of town.

 

Its just because the organisers like the spectacle of the whole circus charging through town, and the riders are the performers?

 

Or am i missing something.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Uran winning on a "single speed". :eek:  Chapeau to him for giving it all.  :clap:

 

 

Dunno how he did it after his derailleur got taken out in a crash

 

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Yoh! And he takes the win

Quite special

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It seems that the downs are the new place to attack.

 

I was trying to understand the speeds involved - would be good to compare average speeds on the downhill versus 20 years ago. I am not sure of my information but the gold standard in those days was, i am lead to believe, Stephen Roche's 112kmh on a pyrenean descent. Now you hear of 134 kmh on some of those descents. THis is the Alps - the mountains to come are steeper and less guarded. 

 

Given thta Richie caused his own accident by going off the LHS, it was really his fault, and he was lucky he fell across the road in to a "barrier" which stopped him vanishing down the mountain at 72 kmh.

 

Is it me or are the riders attacking the downhills much more aggressively ?

 

And as a consequence smaller errors in bike handling have much higher consequences as the speeds are so much higher. A relatively average bike handler is now very exposed and the descents carry much higher value and risks. No more recovery on the way down. Alos the peloton has degenerated in to an unruly mob? IN the past the heads of state could call the shots, but now the youngsters have ade it in to a free for all, so downhill is the new place to gain minutes and time by taking insane risks ?

 

Also, does anyone else start fearing we will see a rider killed on a descent soon? From a protection point of view, Lycra and a Polystyrene foam helmet are not really going to help you much.

 

For me it seems like the point Formula 1 came to in 1994 with Senna's death. Someone prominent had to die to force change. Do we really want to see this in cycling, or am i stating the obvious and its already accepted as a risk with deaths in the Giro a couple of years ago, Casartelli and others (only these spring to mind) etc being part of the risks of being a major cycling hero? Adds to the romanticism of the sport - Omerta and all....

 

There are so many crashes and the result is being determined by this, in the green and yellow jerseys. Not by the strongest guy up the mountain, but the fastest guys down the mountain. GC position 2 - Thomas and Porte was in i think 4th? Gone in crashes....

 

THis is different to Froome's crashes on the cobbles IMO...

 

Also the sprints are hectic:

 

Surely the riders also get tired of having to drag through multiple tight corners at high speed, with traffic obstacles and narrowing roads, to be able to sprint in the middle of town? they could make the drag in to the edge of town rather than finish in the centre of town.

 

Its just because the organisers like the spectacle of the whole circus charging through town, and the riders are the performers?

 

Or am i missing something.....

It was Ritchies fault??????? You obviously missed the blatant elbow in the face that he got from Romain Bardet. I am suprised RB never got a DQ for that dangerous move.

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