Mongooser Posted February 8, 2017 Share The flat corners im dealing with have a dirt rock garden of ruts, water damamged holes and the soil is so loose you can't slow down,then I stand there watching and see garlicki and pottie hit it and wonder how they don't slip out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongooser Posted February 8, 2017 Share Nope. This will not work for mongooser who is a purist roadie turned into xc racer. Only the lightest pedals and shoes will do, and thus he uses clipless. For everyone on flats though, great tegniek!that explains why I have a DH and DJ bike haha Edited February 8, 2017 by mongooser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ruinaard Posted February 8, 2017 Share Read this: http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/how-to-ride-flat-turns-at-maximum-speed-44673/ It helped me both offroad and on the road.Excellent advice. Practice as well. It takes kahunas not to panic when the bike is scrabbling for grip past the apex and you are heading for the outside of the track at speed. When racing I always used to start slow and build up - running the same corner multiple times and adding speed slowly until you are where you can feel the bike starting to misbehave and cam feel the signals its starting to give you. If you just go there straight away you wont get this build up and feedback and be sensitive to it. Capricorn, Mongooser and popcorn_skollie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJacques Posted February 8, 2017 Share Don't underestimate the difference your tires can make in terms of grip and cornering ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongooser Posted February 8, 2017 Share Don't underestimate the difference your tires can make in terms of grip and cornering ability I run a 2.50 on my bike new bike has 2.8's This better work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted February 8, 2017 Share the hip turn helps maintain your body's CoG over the tyre contact patch with the ground, and helps you lean that bike over, especially when you keep your feet on the pedals when cornering. But for foot-out guys, it's a little bit different. examples with hip turn and feet on pedals: Mr EWS himselfhttp://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2014/12/carpark-cornering-1.jpg Mitch Turnalotohttp://www.mountainflyermagazine.com/img/upimages/eddie_clark/2013/GravityNats/EClark_130803_0307.jpg Josh Ratboy Brycelandhttp://www.mtbtelevision.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Meribel-700x600.jpg Sam Hill:http://fstatic1.mtb-news.de/img/photos/3/4/0/2/2/_/medium/SamHillSchladmingDH.jpg For foot-out, being centered between the wheels in a fore-aft direction, is better, as you will use stamp your foot to generate a pivot point if the wheel's start skidding. Examples: Sam Hill: Sam Hill:http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2013/02/28/max_hill_g7k0665.jpg http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb2165999/p4pb2165999.jpg Because Sam Hill rides flats, he is a very good example of the two styles of cornering: feet up, or foot down, and how the body weight is distributed and whether the bike is leaned or not. Just like this, if I remember then I do it as well. You will see the motorbike guys do this alot, and trust me it does work very well, if you do it correctly Capricorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJacques Posted February 8, 2017 Share I run a 2.50 on my bike new bike has 2.8'sThis better work! Well, there is always this http://www.gripstuds.com/Images/category_imgs/ice_studs.jpg Kalahari Vegmot, Long Wheel Base, Mongooser and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongooser Posted February 8, 2017 Share Just like this, if I remember then I do it as well. You will see the motorbike guys do this alot, and trust me it does work very well, if you do it correctlyMotox guys have throttle so the slow in fast out theorie works much better, chris nixon told me to go in slow and pump the corner for a faster exit,my time was 10 seconds faster using his advice,Flat corners I hold the rear brake and use my foot to direct my bike,then again I've done dh 4 times so its just a matter of practice and different approaches right? Eddy Gordo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted February 8, 2017 Share Motox guys have throttle so the slow in fast out theorie works much better, chris nixon told me to go in slow and pump the corner for a faster exit,my time was 10 seconds faster using his advice,Flat corners I hold the rear brake and use my foot to direct my bike,then again I've done dh 4 times so its just a matter of practice and different approaches right? '10s'? How do you know it was from that then .... just asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 8, 2017 Share Better yet, get a person like Julian Louw (Spelling) to do a 1 on 1 skills session with you.....know a few people who have used him, and they have been very happy with their development and the way JL tutors and spots other potential skills that need honing! Eddy Gordo, Trail Angel and MTBeer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanD Posted February 8, 2017 Share the hip turn helps maintain your body's CoG over the tyre contact patch with the ground, and helps you lean that bike over, especially when you keep your feet on the pedals when cornering. But for foot-out guys, it's a little bit different. examples with hip turn and feet on pedals: Mr EWS himselfhttp://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2014/12/carpark-cornering-1.jpg Mitch Turnalotohttp://www.mountainflyermagazine.com/img/upimages/eddie_clark/2013/GravityNats/EClark_130803_0307.jpg Josh Ratboy Brycelandhttp://www.mtbtelevision.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Meribel-700x600.jpg Sam Hill:http://fstatic1.mtb-news.de/img/photos/3/4/0/2/2/_/medium/SamHillSchladmingDH.jpg For foot-out, being centered between the wheels in a fore-aft direction, is better, as you will use stamp your foot to generate a pivot point if the wheel's start skidding. Examples: Sam Hill: Sam Hill:http://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2013/02/28/max_hill_g7k0665.jpg http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb2165999/p4pb2165999.jpg Because Sam Hill rides flats, he is a very good example of the two styles of cornering: feet up, or foot down, and how the body weight is distributed and whether the bike is leaned or not.Those pics, exactly how I think of myself when I ride my bike but in reality it's closer to this: Kalahari Vegmot, Hairy, Capricorn and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted February 8, 2017 Share Better yet, get a person like Julian Louw (Spelling) to do a 1 on 1 skills session with you.....know a few people who have used him, and they have been very happy with their development and the way JL tutors and spots other potential skills that need honing!have done a group session with Julian and can vouch for that. Only thing is you need to keep practicing the skill or else old habits creep back in. Also ideally do a session every few months. Mongooser, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Hairy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongooser Posted February 8, 2017 Share '10s'? How do you know it was from that then .... just askingMy seeding run was 10 seconds longer,he told me after it to go in slow out fast.so in my race run I did and got a faster time,I did fall and get winded and still had a faster time,if I didn't fall it would've been 15 secs faster,yes I got back on the bike not able to breath lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 8, 2017 Share Motox guys have throttle so the slow in fast out theorie works much better, chris nixon told me to go in slow and pump the corner for a faster exit,my time was 10 seconds faster using his advice,Flat corners I hold the rear brake and use my foot to direct my bike,then again I've done dh 4 times so its just a matter of practice and different approaches right?easy tiger ..... you mean to take the corner skidding your rear wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongooser Posted February 8, 2017 Share easy tiger ..... you mean to take the corner skidding your rear wheel?Yeah I have to much speed coming in so I have to lock up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted February 8, 2017 Share Those pics, exactly how I think of myself when I ride my bike but in reality it's closer to this: Capture.JPG don't worry, you and Sam Hill have much in common Kalahari Vegmot, AlanD, Hamstring and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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