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I would stick my neck out and say you need to lose 5-10kg to race elites. 

 

Those numbers are good enough for VB, not so sure you'll hang with VA. 

Yeah I would tend to agree with you. Not sure how tall he is. I am 184 and weigh in at 66-68 and am no where near the front end of VA. My power figures are a lot lower than his though.

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Yeah I would tend to agree with you. Not sure how tall he is. I am 184 and weigh in at 66-68 and am no where near the front end of VA. My power figures are a lot lower than his though.

I am 182 cm and weigh 74, but muscular build.

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I would stick my neck out and say you need to lose 5-10kg to race elites. 

 

Those numbers are good enough for VB, not so sure you'll hang with VA. 

Elites is not VA.... lucky for us JC we are not VA any more... or B or C.... :) and definitely no VD....

 

Numbers are often misleading - the only way to know is to try...

 

I clearly remember my first ride with VA.... got dropped on hill 1..... but it got better from there....

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Elites is not VA.... lucky for us JC we are not VA any more... or B or C.... :) and definitely no VD....

 

Numbers are often misleading - the only way to know is to try...

 

I clearly remember my first ride with VA.... got dropped on hill 1..... but it got better from there....

I know I was merely trying to predict where those numbers will "fit"

 

My guess is VB (40-49)

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"I know nothing, please help me with my numbers"

 

Yeah right! You were just looking for a reason to boast...

 

Like saying: "Is this car worth anything, it says 'Bugatti Veyron' on it"

Haha I can vouch for Andreas he wont do that. But yes those numbers are proper.

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Numbers are exactly that. Numbers. They are pretty meaningless unless you measure them against other numbers obtained under the same conditions.

 

Like the others said - those numbers are good enough to show that you have potential so go find a coach, get a good programme and do the same test every few montus to see if the program works.

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Yeah I would tend to agree with you. Not sure how tall he is. I am 184 and weigh in at 66-68 and am no where near the front end of VA. My power figures are a lot lower than his though.

 

You need to eat, eat , eat and the eat some more  :whistling:  :whistling:

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If your FTP is 312W (95% of your 20min avg power) then you should be seriously fast

If it's 312w avg for 20min then you should still be fast :-)

 

That also gives you 4.22w/per kg which is what the local Elites are pushing on avg if I remember correctly.

For TDF you'll have to double that

 

Your best bet on improving are probably to get a coach who can work with you.

Not quite. The infamous Dr Ferrari stated that to win the TdF you need to have a FTP of 6

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You need to eat, eat , eat and the eat some more  :whistling:  :whistling:

Trust me, I do. I have work colleagues that weight almost double what I do and when we braai at work or go out for a pub lunch they can't believe how I can put the chow away. But I can put the calories in because I burn them frequently.

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Trust me, I do. I have work colleagues that weight almost double what I do and when we braai at work or go out for a pub lunch they can't believe how I can put the chow away. But I can put the calories in because I burn them frequently.

These are the threads I must avoid. I am 1.86 and 81kg and I now feel fat, slow and powerless.
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it seems generally accepted that the FTP result is the most useful of the measurements you've done if you have a power meter to train with and yes, quite impressive numbers those are...  So few people (including me) should really be commenting on this forum, because not many of us put out those numbers...  I am a better reader than a cyclist though, hence I have spent some time studying this topic.

 

Next step is to use the FTP value to determine the 7 power zones (note: the standard GARMIN selected power zones do not correlate with the better recognized zones as calculated by the Coggan formula).  The actual percentages can be found by googling "power zones coggan".

 

Now you can do two things:

 

Firstly, it gives you an indication of how effective the time spent is training in each of the power zones.  Typically the biggest bang for your buck (general fitness) is to spend the bulk of your training between zone 3 and 4.  i.e. Normalized Power should typically be towards the higher end of Zone 3.

 

Secondly, determine your critical power curve.  This would give you the theoretical maximum time that you can spend for any given effort of constant power.  E.g. if your FTP is 312, it means that you should be able to sustain 312 Watt for an hour.  This translates to say 330 Watt for 20 minutes, 360 Watt for 10 minutes, 400W for 5 minutes and probably something like 500W for one minute.  (these are not actual values, just estimates to make the point).  Do these efforts individually (on different days) to see if you're better at longer steady efforts or short bursts of high intensity...

 

So now that you have this, work on your weaknesses by doing specified intervals in the bracket where you struggle the most...

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it seems generally accepted that the FTP result is the most useful of the measurements you've done if you have a power meter to train with and yes, quite impressive numbers those are...  So few people (including me) should really be commenting on this forum, because not many of us put out those numbers...  I am a better reader than a cyclist though, hence I have spent some time studying this topic.

 

Next step is to use the FTP value to determine the 7 power zones (note: the standard GARMIN selected power zones do not correlate with the better recognized zones as calculated by the Coggan formula).  The actual percentages can be found by googling "power zones coggan".

 

Now you can do two things:

 

Firstly, it gives you an indication of how effective the time spent is training in each of the power zones.  Typically the biggest bang for your buck (general fitness) is to spend the bulk of your training between zone 3 and 4.  i.e. Normalized Power should typically be towards the higher end of Zone 3.

 

Secondly, determine your critical power curve.  This would give you the theoretical maximum time that you can spend for any given effort of constant power.  E.g. if your FTP is 312, it means that you should be able to sustain 312 Watt for an hour.  This translates to say 330 Watt for 20 minutes, 360 Watt for 10 minutes, 400W for 5 minutes and probably something like 500W for one minute.  (these are not actual values, just estimates to make the point).  Do these efforts individually (on different days) to see if you're better at longer steady efforts or short bursts of high intensity...

 

So now that you have this, work on your weaknesses by doing specified intervals in the bracket where you struggle the most...

Wow thank you, this was the advice I was looking for.

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