Availability of Steel Frame Hardtails

[Flippa]

Pipedream are currently having a pre-order special on their new Moxie. 1000 quid will get you a frame and DVO fork

[Sepia]

I have seen a few Mercer threads and they look beautiful but I surely they must be very expensive considering they are custom made.

"Rather expensive"

 

Sit down, relax, breath and only then ask for a price.  

I know they are good bikes, etc, get what you pay for etc, etc but wow, 

[dewaldsss]

And then there's this...

 

https://bike-addict.co.za/products/ritchey-p-29-frame

 

https://bike-addict.co.za/products/ritchey-p-650b-frame

[Eddy Gordo]

Did you have a look at what CRC has on offer?

[Grease_Monkey]

I don't have the world of experience with steel hard tails, but have owned a Cotic Solaris single speed, and currently own a Cotic Solaris Max with 650b+ wheels (interchangeable with 29") and a 140mm fork. I only have good things to say about the brand - their frames are really well thought out, and the local support from Matt is legendary - I would highly recommend giving him a call and chatting about what you need.

 

As for Cotic's 650b options - the Soul and BFE are both great options depending on how rowdy you want to get.

 

Although.... those Pipedream bikes are the stuff of dreams - really awesome looking, and if shipping doesn't turn out to be too expensive would be a consideration for me in future.

[Simon Kolin]

I think the type of riding I do lends itself to 27.5 more. Short rides, max 35km, that consist of mainly technical singletrack, not that I am very skilled at it, but that's another story.

 

Also I am a retro grouch who loves my current 26er but its starting to show its age and tire selection is getting very limited.

As a fellow Retro Grouch, I totally understand how difficult it can be to find the ride quality of a 26" steel frame. I still ride my Goat and love every second.

 

I think that 650b is a very sensible size for your replacement (29r be damned!).

 

Would you not consider Titanium as a frame material or does the cost put you off?

[openmind]

I am considering upgrading my bike next year and want a steel framed hardtail. What frames are available locally? The only 3 I can find that are available locally are:

 

1. Momsen ST-R29 - https://momsenbikes.com/the-return-of-the-st-r-29-hardtail-steel-is-real/

2. Cotic - http://www.cotic.co.za

3. Contraband Rogue - http://www.contrabandbikes.com

 

I want a frame suited to 27.5in wheels so the Momsen is out, The contraband is suited to both wheel sizes but I dont like the eccentric BB so that leaves something from Cotic. Surely there must be more options.

 

My first choice would be a On One 45650B but as far as I can tell you need to order it from the UK and the shipping cost is almost as much as a frame and that is before VAT is added.

 

Niner SIR 9 with 27.5 plus tyres FTW.

[Flippa]

I don't have the world of experience with steel hard tails, but have owned a Cotic Solaris single speed, and currently own a Cotic Solaris Max with 650b+ wheels (interchangeable with 29") and a 140mm fork. I only have good things to say about the brand - their frames are really well thought out, and the local support from Matt is legendary - I would highly recommend giving him a call and chatting about what you need.

 

As for Cotic's 650b options - the Soul and BFE are both great options depending on how rowdy you want to get.

 

Although.... those Pipedream bikes are the stuff of dreams - really awesome looking, and if shipping doesn't turn out to be too expensive would be a consideration for me in future.

 

I was very happy in my dealings with Pipedream when I bought my Ti Skookum. They always answered their emails, communicated the shipping delays, and I still get an email once a year, asking if I'm still happy with the frame. I am, BTW, 5 years down the line.

[Eddy Gordo]

What is the budget?

 

Those NS bikes arent bad either

[Fleming]

To answer a few questions, I am just toying with the idea at the moment. No budget has been set but it would probably be around R5k so not looking for anything exotic. I have a baby on the way so need to keep costs down.

 

I am not against a mass produced bike but would prefer to buy local, as the shipping cost for a one off frame does seem a little excessive, at least with the "On One" example. I am not sure how Aramex works but am looking at other shipping options. I travel to Germany fairly regularly for work so may be able to ship it there and bring it back.

 

To be honest I kind of have my heart set on the On One 45650b as it appears it ticks all the boxes, is reasonably priced and gets decent reviews.I just wish there was a local agent. I have also requested pricing from Cotic for the Soul and BFe.

 

 

 

 

[Grease_Monkey]

I was very happy in my dealings with Pipedream when I bought my Ti Skookum. They always answered their emails, communicated the shipping delays, and I still get an email once a year, asking if I'm still happy with the frame. I am, BTW, 5 years down the line.

 

That's really good to hear. Those bikes seriously make me drool - and I might just have to splash out in the near future!

[Hairy]

I am considering upgrading my bike next year and want a steel framed hardtail. What frames are available locally? The only 3 I can find that are available locally are:

 

1. Momsen ST-R29 - https://momsenbikes.com/the-return-of-the-st-r-29-hardtail-steel-is-real/

2. Cotic - http://www.cotic.co.za

3. Contraband Rogue - http://www.contrabandbikes.com

 

I want a frame suited to 27.5in wheels so the Momsen is out, The contraband is suited to both wheel sizes but I dont like the eccentric BB so that leaves something from Cotic. Surely there must be more options.

 

My first choice would be a On One 45650B but as far as I can tell you need to order it from the UK and the shipping cost is almost as much as a frame and that is before VAT is added.

Check with Ryan PMB ... he brings in On-One to SA

[Shebeen]

it owuld be nice to go local, but it seems like you do have options

I think the type of riding I do lends itself to 27.5 more. Short rides, max 35km, that consist of mainly technical singletrack, not that I am very skilled at it, but that's another story.

 

Also I am a retro grouch who loves my current 26er but its starting to show its age and tire selection is getting very limited.

maybe the on-one dedaar? - 208 GBP is also in your range, it's just getting it! there was a hubber in pmb that was bringin them in (can't remember who)

 

To answer a few questions, I am just toying with the idea at the moment. No budget has been set but it would probably be around R5k so not looking for anything exotic. I have a baby on the way so need to keep costs down.

 

I am not against a mass produced bike but would prefer to buy local, as the shipping cost for a one off frame does seem a little excessive, at least with the "On One" example. I am not sure how Aramex works but am looking at other shipping options. I travel to Germany fairly regularly for work so may be able to ship it there and bring it back.

 

To be honest I kind of have my heart set on the On One 45650b as it appears it ticks all the boxes, is reasonably priced and gets decent reviews.I just wish there was a local agent. I have also requested pricing from Cotic for the Soul and BFe.

 

well zen you have to go here

 

https://www.bike24.de/1.php?content=7&menu=1000%2C2%2C99%2C101&orderby=2&__qf_form-filter=&pgc%5B3199%5D=3204&pgc%5B3201%5D=3207&pgc%5B10396%5D=10398

 

or 

 

https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/hardtail-27%2C5-8672/l-24

[Coenie W]

If you travel to Germany then this could be an option :

https://www.bike-components.de/en/Surly/Straggler-27-5-Rahmenkit-p41439/

or you could also try Rosebikes

[Pieter1]

Check with Ryan PMB ... he brings in On-One to SA

I sent him a mail ages ago and never head back. Mabey he’s not active, mabey it did not go through.

[Hairy]

I sent him a mail ages ago and never head back. Mabey he’s not active, mabey it did not go through.

Sent him a Whatsapp now ... let's see if he is still active on the no.