Scammer: AVermaak 0736403926 0833380586 0735571325 0719242226 0780588679 0632361766

[Fat Boab]

Hi 

 

I work for Standard Bank. PM me and I can forward you details of the account holder.

 

Account belongs to a female in Bethlehem.

 

As commendable, and resourceful, as this is, perhaps best kept to PM?

[mecheng89]

I was caught about a month ago with someone using this exact method - except on Gumtree. Also advertising a pike, claimed to be in Robertson. His name was Hannes Hatting and he too sounded Afrikaans on the phone, asked me which bank I'd use and when I said Standard Bank he said he'd give his Standard Bank details. Luckily didn't get hit for too much because I said I'd pay the balance in cash when I got the fork. Number disconnected after payment etc etc, same story.

 

Hannes Hatting - 0638966941

Standard Bank acc: 10065510397

 

Could be a different guy - I have marked the number on Truecaller as a scammer, although it will probably never be used again. First time with a bad experience - I will sure be much more careful buying and selling now.

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/170636-suspicious-activity-on-wanted-ad-hans-hatting/

[mecheng89]

The douchebag contacted me as well....regarding my wanted add. ...said he had a wheelset. ..based in Knysna. ..when I asked for pics....all went quiet. ..Admin also warned me that said scammer had viewd my add....well done Admin. .

Monica Belucci, yummy!

[Eugene]

Hi

 

I work for Standard Bank. PM me and I can forward you details of the account holder.

 

Account belongs to a female in Bethlehem.

You shouldn't be making this public knowledge. If your bosses knew that you are handing out client details, you'll be fired.

 

If those were my details you gave out, I would be pretty pissed off.

[Meezo]

You shouldn't be making this public knowledge. If your bosses knew that you are handing out client details, you'll be fired.

 

If those were my details you gave out, I would be pretty pissed off.

 

yeh sure his boss would know who is CMY44

[Shebeen]

might be this stormers prop..

 

he looks pretty legit

 

http://thestormers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/vermaak-alicheetahs638.jpgAlistair Vermaak - stormers

[Sitting@89]

You shouldn't be making this public knowledge. If your bosses knew that you are handing out client details, you'll be fired.

 

If those were my details you gave out, I would be pretty pissed off.

Agreed, while I sincerely hope that the scammer gets caught and dealt with through the correct avenues, handing out banking details is not only morally questionable I am pretty sure it is illegal as well.

 

Half the problem in this country is everyone seems to think they can choose which laws to abide by, if you are willing to break the law (no matter your intentions) you are also part of the problem.

[Rachmaninoff]

Big thumbs-up to Admin. Think they deserve a lot of credit when it comes to tracking these guys. "Louis" contacted me a while ago regarding a wanted ad I posted, and shortly thereafter I got a message from Admin saying they suspect I may have been contacted by a fraudster...

[Chingy182]

These scammers don't play by the rules, so why should we?

 

Seriously, if this was me being scammed and a fellow hubber offered to get me the scammer's personal info based on their connections, I'd be over the moon.

 

If this info leads to an arrest or something then why not?

 

CMY44 didn't offer any personal information on the thread, but offered to present it via PM.

 

Anyway, just my personal take on the matter.

[Eugene]

These scammers don't play by the rules, so why should we?

 

Seriously, if this was me being scammed and a fellow hubber offered to get me the scammer's personal info based on their connections, I'd be over the moon.

 

If this info leads to an arrest or something then why not?

 

CMY44 didn't offer any personal information on the thread, but offered to present it via PM.

 

Anyway, just my personal take on the matter.

It does not matter whether it is by PM or made public on a forum, the fact is that all client details at a bank are confidential. No bank employee may give these details out to anyone.

 

If this info was obtained in any way other than the official channels, it is deemed to be obtained illegally and therefore cannot be used as evidence. It therefore will not lead to an arrest.

[Matt]

While it's tempting to take shortcuts to nail this guy we URGE you to not do anything illegal to obtain evidence or information. 

I've encouraged everyone affected to open a case with SAPS and from there the correct processes can be followed. 

 

While the opening of a single case at your local SAPS my seem daunting or not worth the effort, the only way we can get this escalated is if everyone affected opens a case independently. Once the links are clear and the repeat behaviour is documented there is better motivation to collate the cases and have a single detective investigate.

[Sitting@89]

These scammers don't play by the rules, so why should we?

 

Seriously, if this was me being scammed and a fellow hubber offered to get me the scammer's personal info based on their connections, I'd be over the moon.

 

If this info leads to an arrest or something then why not?

 

CMY44 didn't offer any personal information on the thread, but offered to present it via PM.

 

Anyway, just my personal take on the matter.

While I understand your argument in principle I have to disagree with the basis that one wrong validates another.

 

By that logic no taxis obey the rules of the road so why should I, just imagine what a society would look like where everyone reasoned like that.

[scotty]

These scammers don't play by the rules, so why should we?

 

Seriously, if this was me being scammed and a fellow hubber offered to get me the scammer's personal info based on their connections, I'd be over the moon.

 

If this info leads to an arrest or something then why not?

 

CMY44 didn't offer any personal information on the thread, but offered to present it via PM.

 

Anyway, just my personal take on the matter.

Unauthorized access is a dismissable offence and the bank can be sued. You need proper authorization to release this information, any access is electronically captured as who, when and where an account was accessed and is easy to trace. 

[johannrissik]

The plot thickens. ...

A female in Bethlehem? At this time of the year? Careful, you could start something.

[Louisben]

Hi. Hope you all well.

Posted an ad for sale of an Ibis Mojo HD-R on Sat 2nd Dec. got this reply on WhatsApp:

“I am interested in buying the bike. Kindly get back to me via email at richardsonadam2010@gmail.com waiting to hear from you soon”

 

My reply to that: Hi. No problem, will send email. You are welcome to check the bike out at the bike park. Are you far from Constantia?

 

Followed by email: Hi

 

What questions do you have about the bike?

 

Kind regards

Ben

 

Sent from my iPhone.

 

His email reply: I'm really interested in buying this as a surprise for my cousin but only if you can assure me it's in a good condition. I am a petroleum engineer currently on a rig offshore. I really want this to be a surprise for my cousin so I won't let him know anything about this until it gets delivered to him, I am sure he will be more than happy with it. It will be secured paying via PayFast as I'm on a rig offshore. So let me know if you have an account with Payfast so I can make the payment. Note well: Pickup agent will come for the pickup as soon as I have made the payment.

 

My reply :https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/146091-scammer-alert-for-gumtree-sellers/

 

Thank you guys for helping me be more aware of this.

 

His email is richardsonadam2010@gmail.com

His number is 061 011 7823

Adam Richardson.

 

Cheers and thanks again

[johannrissik]

Hi. Hope you all well.

Posted an ad for sale of an Ibis Mojo HD-R on Sat 2nd Dec. got this reply on WhatsApp:

“I am interested in buying the bike. Kindly get back to me via email at richardsonadam2010@gmail.com waiting to hear from you soon”

 

My reply to that: Hi. No problem, will send email. You are welcome to check the bike out at the bike park. Are you far from Constantia?

 

Followed by email: Hi

 

What questions do you have about the bike?

 

Kind regards

Ben

 

Sent from my iPhone.

 

His email reply: I'm really interested in buying this as a surprise for my cousin but only if you can assure me it's in a good condition. I am a petroleum engineer currently on a rig offshore. I really want this to be a surprise for my cousin so I won't let him know anything about this until it gets delivered to him, I am sure he will be more than happy with it. It will be secured paying via PayFast as I'm on a rig offshore. So let me know if you have an account with Payfast so I can make the payment. Note well: Pickup agent will come for the pickup as soon as I have made the payment.

 

My reply :https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/146091-scammer-alert-for-gumtree-sellers/

 

Thank you guys for helping me be more aware of this.

 

His email is richardsonadam2010@gmail.com

His number is 061 011 7823

Adam Richardson.

 

Cheers and thanks again

 

As subtle as a dog's nuts.  The offshore rig is a standard.