Gen Posted April 21, 2021 Share Is it just me that was kinda hoping that the ESL would succeed if only to show UEFA the finger? I mean all these threats and then they only do this reform after the fact yet the clubs have been pleading for decadesNot the only one. The whole structure needs change.... UEFA need a proper kick up the backside.. So do FIFA.... The business model is not sustainable.. It hasn't been for a very long time. Edited April 21, 2021 by Gen Eddy Gordo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted April 21, 2021 Share So while the ESL shenanigans were going on UEFA snuck through an expanded Champions League. I just wish fans were just as passionate about giving the middle finger to both UEFA and FIFA. Gen and Eddy Gordo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted April 21, 2021 Share So while the ESL shenanigans were going on UEFA snuck through an expanded Champions League. I just wish fans were just as passionate about giving the middle finger to both UEFA and FIFA.Fans have this romantic illusion about the game. It stopped being for the fans or belonging to the fans back in the early 90's. It's a money making machine the only reason there was uproar was because the money was going to leave the governing body, current broadcasters etc etc.. The ESL was flawed in many ways but one thing that wasn't flawed was that clubs would own the league have a direct say in how the money is distributed Apparently UEFA keep something like 50% of the revenue generated.... But hey football belongs to the fans..[emoji2955] Andrew Steer, Thug and Red Robin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted April 21, 2021 Share All football governing bodies are corrupt. UEFA Champions league final - 90 000 capacity stadium - 22 000 tickets to each finalist - balance of tickets to UEFA sponsors Premiership - FA Cup final - ditto above FIFA - World Cup in Qatar which has a human rights issue probably only marginally better than China. Governing bodies couldn't give a continental about the fans, it's about the money! Edited April 21, 2021 by Thug Red Robin, Andrew Steer and Gen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Posted April 21, 2021 Share That new CL system is even worse than the old one Make it 32 teams .Straight knockout. Edited April 21, 2021 by Prince Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Posted April 21, 2021 Share Was probably only announced to scare the crap out of FIFA and UEFA. Peepeed on a few fans batteries though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted April 21, 2021 Share this have dated incredibly well, because ....FIFA is still a steaming pile of crap. but you know who makes FIFA look good?this walking turd and his cronies Lols.. While we are at it.. Rolling subs.. Not players rolling around on the ground.. They do that already. . Catch a breath change tactics come back on lol.yup. there is a lot that goes into combinations/structures in high level football - complicating it with more subsitutions would open up both the gam,e and the stalemates. win win win. oh and a larger proportion of the squad would get actual game time. the amount of quality players with splinters in their bums is ridiculous Gen and Frosty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted April 21, 2021 Share Fans have this romantic illusion about the game. It stopped being for the fans or belonging to the fans back in the early 90's. It's a money making machine the only reason there was uproar was because the money was going to leave the governing body, current broadcasters etc etc.. The ESL was flawed in many ways but one thing that wasn't flawed was that clubs would own the league have a direct say in how the money is distributed Apparently UEFA keep something like 50% of the revenue generated.... But hey football belongs to the fans..[emoji2955]And who do you think the ESL money was goin to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted April 21, 2021 Share And who do you think the ESL money was goin to?Do you not believe team owned leagues is better than UEFA or any governing body. How has the CL league helped the smaller teams.. How has any league under their current structure helped the smaller teams. How many teams have gone through sales the last 30 years. Once really good teams struggle to survive.. .. It's not sustainable in current format.. The fact that the super league has fallen apart before it got started won't change that.... Leagues are dominated by a handful of clubs.. That won't change.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted April 21, 2021 Share Do you not believe team owned leagues is better than UEFA or any governing body. How has the CL league helped the smaller teams.. How has any league under their current structure helped the smaller teams. How many teams have gone through sales the last 30 years. Once really good teams struggle to survive.. .. It's not sustainable in current format.. The fact that the super league has fallen apart before it got started won't change that.... Leagues are dominated by a handful of clubs.. That won't change..I agree but I am merely asking who do you think is going to benefit from the Billions that will be paid out.Players earning 1bar a week?Thats what I hear.Secondly the clubs are too busy running their clubs to run the league.So they appoint a governing body.Back to square one.I dont believe the Super League is the great fix all its made out to be.Anyway its dead in the water already.It will not be the last salvo in this story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted April 21, 2021 Share I agree but I am merely asking who do you think is going to benefit from the Billions that will be paid out.Players earning 1bar a week?Thats what I hear.Secondly the clubs are too busy running their clubs to run the league.So they appoint a governing body.Back to square one.I dont believe the Super League is the great fix all its made out to be.Anyway its dead in the water already.It will not be the last salvo in this storyAt least they proposed a salary cap. Yes all back to square one.. Same old same old.. Fight for revenue fight with UEFA and so it continues for all of forever.Fans want chairman's out, owners out yet in 2/3 months time we'll see those same fans wanting their clubs spending far too much to strengthen the teams.. Ticket prices increase, subscriptions increase.. ....and so round and round we go. [emoji1787] Football is for the fans, my gat[emoji1787] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted April 21, 2021 Share At least they proposed a salary cap. Yes all back to square one.. Same old same old.. Fight for revenue fight with UEFA and so it continues for all of forever.Fans want chairman's out, owners out yet in 2/3 months time we'll see those same fans wanting their clubs spending far too much to strengthen the teams.. Ticket prices increase, subscriptions increase.. ....and so round and round we go. [emoji1787] Football is for the fans, my gat[emoji1787]Its not that bad.If you are a fan.You support your team.Go watch the game.Go bapiep and get pissed afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted April 21, 2021 Share The transfer window is going to be interesting. Fans totally aghast at the ESL and the revenues it could generate but on the other hand (Darren ) those same fans wanting to spend 200m signing Kylian Mbappe. marko35s and Gen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted April 21, 2021 Share The transfer window is going to be interesting. Fans totally aghast at the ESL and the revenues it could generate but on the other hand (Darren ) those same fans wanting to spend 200m signing Kylian Mbappe.Yep. They want success they want the big name players but heavens forbid clubs a try come up with a way to make more money to satisfy their fan base need for that success PS I see Mbappé is trending today Edited April 21, 2021 by Gen Thug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Posted April 21, 2021 Share I personally can't see Mbappe going anywhere other than Real Madrid. Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Posted April 21, 2021 Share I personally can't see Mbappe going anywhere other than Real Madrid.Yep.. If he doesn't renew with PSG he'll go to Madrid... Either on a transfer now or free next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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