The Veganism Thread

[Wayne Potgieter]

Meant to also say that meat and dairy make me fart like a wounded bull so being plant based is really the best thing I can do for my fellow human beings.

 

It’s really a community service.

[Odinson]

well, there are certain vegans who sit on their high horse in this thread but will happily go to other threads about topics that they dont agree with and troll way worse than what you have seen here. so i guess a lot of people feel they need to repay the compliment. its not right. its the Hub.

Forkie, I’m quite sure I’m included in the group you’re alluding to. I’m also quite certain I actually at one point even offered an apology.

 

For those that haven’t noticed, I’ve kept my vegan posts to this thread (no, my post on the hunting thread had nothing to do with veganism) and have not made snooty religious remarks in a long time.

[Patchelicious]

You. Are. On. A . Vegan. Thread.

 

You have chosen to come and here and get self triggered.

 

In the same way that I don't go to hunting threads and call people murderers I'd expect people not to come to a vegan thread just to insult and meme vegans. That's just masochistic.

Drop. The. Sanctimony. It’s. Not. Called. For.

 

I am not triggered. You are claiming that people are triggered. This claim was made before I started posting, so maybe you used "you" in the general sense, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

Like I asked. Who has come here and cornered anybody into listening to their pro meat arguments?

 

This thread was started as a place to discuss veganism because people were going to other threads and doing what you describe.

Edited August 16, 2019 by Patchelicious

[Eldron]

Drop. The. Sanctimony. It’s. Not. Called. For.

 

I am not triggered. You are claiming that people are triggered.

 

Like I asked. Who has come here and cornered anybody into listening to their pro meat arguments?

 

This thread was started as a place to discuss veganism because people were going to other threads and doing what you describe.

The discussions have been great. The pics of meat, descriptions of meat, coming to a vegan thread to tell vegans how good meat is, calling vegans brain washed, the cross threading vegan trolling etc have kinda been exactly what pro meaters blame vegans of doing...

[Patchelicious]

The discussions have been great. The pics of meat, descriptions of meat, coming to a vegan thread to tell vegans how good meat is, calling vegans brain washed, the cross threading vegan trolling etc have kinda been exactly what pro meaters blame vegans of doing...

Exactly, and its annoying and not helpful right.

[Patchelicious]

Regarding the vegan bashing of late on the hub, I think it’s concerning. Even if it’s just done as a joke, it has the ability to engender, perpetuate and enforce stereotyping of a diverse community of people. Like I’ve said before, it’s a common technique - taint the messenger and you taint the message. I can take a joke, but some people can’t separate something said in jest with reality.

 

I think a lot of it is also down to how pervasive and pressing the need for a move away animal exploitation is becoming.

 

Can you expand on this? I'm not sure I under the connection between the two.

[forkie]

The discussions have been great. The pics of meat, descriptions of meat, coming to a vegan thread to tell vegans how good meat is, calling vegans brain washed, the cross threading vegan trolling etc have kinda been exactly what pro meaters blame vegans of doing...

seriously - what is so special about vegans that they should be treated any differently to all the other sub groups on the hub? from the type of bike you ride to the length of your socks to your belief system to whatever. What you describe happens across the board to everyone. Most of us are able to see the humour (most of the time). you guys - not so much...

[Edition 507]

I can’t give a rats ass what you eat 

And there is the difference. You are not actually a vegan, you just eat plants.

 

Vegans on the other hand have a serious issue with people eating meat and hence their agenda on animals rights, animals exploitation, animal cruelty, factory farming and their plant based diet saving the world, as well as their moral and ethical judgement of meat eaters.

[Wayne Potgieter]

And there is the difference. You are not actually a vegan, you just eat plants.

 

Vegans on the other hand have a serious issue with people eating meat and hence their agenda on animals rights, animals exploitation, animal cruelty, factory farming and their plant based diet saving the world, as well as their moral and ethical judgement of meat eaters.

again. You are wrong.

 

I don’t wear leather shoes. I drive an electric car. I don’t eat any animal products and I live a vegan lifestyle.

 

I still don’t care what you eat.

 

Anymore than I care what religion you are or race or any other such trivial nonsense. Just let me be and stop thinking you know me. You don’t. You just think you do.

 

Edit. My philosophy is that I believe what I am doing is the best thing for my family and my fellow humans. Everyone walks a journey at their own pace. The best way to “convert” someone is actually to not force the issue but to rather just live the change I want to see in the world and hope it inspires you to do the same.

 

History has taught us that trying to convert people to anything generally doesn’t end well.

 

Second edit: holy Toledo I am a total hippy. Lol

Edited August 16, 2019 by Wayne Potgieter

[sias]

You. Are. On. A . Vegan. Thread.

 

You have chosen to come and here and get self triggered.

 

In the same way that I don't go to hunting threads and call people murderers I'd expect people not to come to a vegan thread just to insult and meme vegans. That's just masochistic.

Like the Toyota guys going on the Land-Rover thread and telling them what a kuk car it is, while the Fortunas are on their roofs and spending thousands to get their 76 Series' track the same width. And then they get upset when the favour is returned...

[forkie]

again. You are wrong.

 

I don’t wear leather shoes. I drive an electric car. I don’t eat any animal products and I live a vegan lifestyle.

 

I still don’t care what you eat.

 

Anymore than I care what religion you are or race or any other such trivial nonsense. Just let me be and stop thinking you know me. You don’t. You just think you do.

 

Edit. My philosophy is that I believe what I am doing is the best thing for my family and my fellow humans. Everyone walks a journey at their own pace. The best way to “convert” someone is actually to not force the issue but to rather just live the change I want to see in the world and hope it inspires you to do the same.

 

History has taught us that trying to convert people to anything generally doesn’t end well.

 

Second edit: holy Toledo I am a total hippy. Lol

Ja - and i remember when you were the number 1 COFBA bad ass mother f#kka. Now ... ? 

[Wayne Potgieter]

Ja - and i remember when you were the number 1 COFBA bad ass mother f#kka. Now ... ?

dude. I am a total pansy now.

 

Even my insults involve plants. [emoji23]

 

I think the point I am trying to make is statements that start with “all vegans...” irritate me. But if I am honest almost all statements that make sweeping generalisations do the same.

[forkie]

dude. I am a total pansy now.

 

Even my insults involve plants. [emoji23]

 

I think the point I am trying to make is statements that start with “all vegans...” irritate me. But if I am honest almost all statements that make sweeping generalisations do the same.

i agree 100%.  - not that you are a pansy. the other thing...

 

 

edit - you are now generalising on statements. they have rights too..

Edited August 16, 2019 by forkie

[Wayne Potgieter]

edit - you are now generalising on statements. they have rights too..

YESSIR. SORRYSIR. WONTHAPPENSGAINSIR.

[Eldron]

seriously - what is so special about vegans that they should be treated any differently to all the other sub groups on the hub? from the type of bike you ride to the length of your socks to your belief system to whatever. What you describe happens across the board to everyone. Most of us are able to see the humour (most of the time). you guys - not so much...

Nothing special. I'd like to believe that if someone treated you/your bike brand/your family etc in a similar manner to the way that vegans get treated here that I would also defend you.

 

How is it that religion and veganism seem to be open season here on the hub? They cop way more flak than any other subject. Expect maybe Specialised.

[Thor Buttox]

Nothing special. I'd like to believe that if someone treated you/your bike brand/your family etc in a similar manner to the way that vegans get treated here that I would also defend you.

 

How is it that religion and veganism seem to be open season here on the hub? They cop way more flak than any other subject. Expect maybe Specialised.

Ahem...

 

EBikes? Trump? Veganism? Religion?

 

3 are real problems and the other is 'Just nuts!'