UCI DH World Cup 2019 Season

[Meezo]

He's a twat

 

agreed!

[Eddy Gordo]

I wonder how a mech gets the responsibility for a broken crank. There could of been a rock strike further up the track which cracked it. At the end of the day **** happens!!

[Stretch]

And of course vital is gonna post that video.. who does he think he is

[Bos]

Apparently its not the first one of those he broke. But I totally agree. Should have let E13 take the flaming for their product that wasnt up to scratch..

Seriously, 3 year old faulty cranks still lying around as if the WC mechs have toolbox's like a backyard diesel mech where you'll find apparently whole cranksets from 3 years ago. The photo below shows John Hall aint that guy.

 

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/whats-in-a-world-cup-mechanics-toolbox-2017.html

Edited May 22, 2019 by Bos

[MrJacques]

Read Gwin's response, then you'll understand the situation better. That being said, he could have worded the initial response better.

[Headshot]

Storm in a tea cup or what? How on earth did Gwin think the video would not get out? Bike parts break especially when ridden hard by pro's. How to make a nothing sutuation much much worse and ruin your rep in one easy step.

[Headshot]

Gwins response on Vital's DH Forum. It looks like an honest explanation but based on the facts I'm not sure why Hall got flamed by him at all...

 

I shoulda been more descriptive and explained things better in that initial comment so that I'm not having to go back and clarify now. I answered a lot of these same accusations in the other responses I made on that same Instagram post but I'll give ya guys the goods too. 

I was just frustrated honestly. I had just got a message from the guys at Mountain creek who took the video respectfully telling me that they weren't going to send the video around, which was kind of them. One of the guys had sent it to someone else and that dude blasted it to Vital straight away. I can't control what the media puts out there but with this video and the circumstances being what they were, it just made the whole situation a bummer. They were old parts that we were told not to run and it was a bummer knowing E13 was gonna get hammered so hard. It would have been cool of Vital to ask for any background info to go with the video.

Also, John's my guy, there's nobody else I'd rather have with me at the races and he's been near perfect for the entire 5+ years we've been working together now. I trust him completely and we've built a strong friendship over the years, anyone who's spent any time around us knows this. A big part of having a real relationship with anyone though is being ok to admit when you've made a mistake. We both understand that and he'd tell you the same thing. He'd want the blame for this to fall on him and not E13 because that's reality. We don't try to cover things up by passing blame, we just represent the truth of the situation and move on.

These were old model cranks that E13 told us not to put on a race bike over a year ago because they'd been having issues with them. The bike I was riding last weekend was the very first Intense that I got months ago before I even signed the contract with them. At that time, I wanted to test it back to back with my YT for comparison and we didn't have a lot of spares to build it up since our new parts hadn't arrived yet. We pieced that bike together with random parts that we had laying around, John had saved those cranks for an enduro bike or something and just threw them on because they were the only ones he had at that time. Shortly after I signed with intense I switched to the XL frame and we built that bike up with all the current parts once they came in before team camp. I just recently went back to that large practice bike a few weeks ago after Maribor, I hadn't been riding it much before then and John just didn't think to swap the cranks out. We both had no idea but when he sent the photos of the broken cranks back to E13 for research with the part number, they came back to us kind of like, "dude, we told you not to run those, why were they on your bike?". When John remembered what batch of cranks those came from he was bummed to say the least. 

Anyways, just trying to give some back story since it's kind of blown up over my comment. There's so many factors involved that me saying what I did on Instagram gave a really short perspective to the whole situation and I should of explained things a bit better. You guys all know that the media seeks out the drama constantly and only gives a certain amount of truth in a lot of things that are posted. That's ok, it's become a part of our culture these days but it doesn't mean that I should just roll with whatever way they decide to represent things.

The hardest thing that I've had to deal with in my career is harsh judgment from the fans. Might surprise you but it's true. It straight up sucks when people talk bad about you, especially since they rarely understand the reality of certain situations. You guys see a very narrow view sometimes of whatever the media chooses to represent, that's why I've always kind of made an effort to step in and make things clear. Sometimes for better, and sometimes maybe for worse. I'm pretty confident that if any of you were to go out to coffee with John and I to discuss this whole situation, or any other in the past, you'd have a very different view on reality when you saw the trust we have for each other, the factors involved, etc. 

Just tryin to be real with you guys.

[Stretch]

Storm in a tea cup or what? How on earth did Gwin think the video would not get out? Bike parts break especially when ridden hard by pro's. How to make a nothing sutuation much much worse and ruin your rep in one easy step.

Would have been like Greg getting all lippy when Ben posted the video of his frame breaking

[Stretch]

We say what we really mean in the heat of the moment.....

[Bos]

Gwins response on Vital's DH Forum. It looks like an honest explanation but based on the facts I'm not sure why Hall got flamed by him at all...

 

I shoulda been more descriptive and explained things better in that initial comment so that I'm not having to go back and clarify now. I answered a lot of these same accusations in the other responses I made on that same Instagram post but I'll give ya guys the goods too. 

 

I was just frustrated honestly. I had just got a message from the guys at Mountain creek who took the video respectfully telling me that they weren't going to send the video around, which was kind of them. One of the guys had sent it to someone else and that dude blasted it to Vital straight away. I can't control what the media puts out there but with this video and the circumstances being what they were, it just made the whole situation a bummer. They were old parts that we were told not to run and it was a bummer knowing E13 was gonna get hammered so hard. It would have been cool of Vital to ask for any background info to go with the video.

 

Also, John's my guy, there's nobody else I'd rather have with me at the races and he's been near perfect for the entire 5+ years we've been working together now. I trust him completely and we've built a strong friendship over the years, anyone who's spent any time around us knows this. A big part of having a real relationship with anyone though is being ok to admit when you've made a mistake. We both understand that and he'd tell you the same thing. He'd want the blame for this to fall on him and not E13 because that's reality. We don't try to cover things up by passing blame, we just represent the truth of the situation and move on.

 

These were old model cranks that E13 told us not to put on a race bike over a year ago because they'd been having issues with them. The bike I was riding last weekend was the very first Intense that I got months ago before I even signed the contract with them. At that time, I wanted to test it back to back with my YT for comparison and we didn't have a lot of spares to build it up since our new parts hadn't arrived yet. We pieced that bike together with random parts that we had laying around, John had saved those cranks for an enduro bike or something and just threw them on because they were the only ones he had at that time. Shortly after I signed with intense I switched to the XL frame and we built that bike up with all the current parts once they came in before team camp. I just recently went back to that large practice bike a few weeks ago after Maribor, I hadn't been riding it much before then and John just didn't think to swap the cranks out. We both had no idea but when he sent the photos of the broken cranks back to E13 for research with the part number, they came back to us kind of like, "dude, we told you not to run those, why were they on your bike?". When John remembered what batch of cranks those came from he was bummed to say the least. 

 

Anyways, just trying to give some back story since it's kind of blown up over my comment. There's so many factors involved that me saying what I did on Instagram gave a really short perspective to the whole situation and I should of explained things a bit better. You guys all know that the media seeks out the drama constantly and only gives a certain amount of truth in a lot of things that are posted. That's ok, it's become a part of our culture these days but it doesn't mean that I should just roll with whatever way they decide to represent things.

 

The hardest thing that I've had to deal with in my career is harsh judgment from the fans. Might surprise you but it's true. It straight up sucks when people talk bad about you, especially since they rarely understand the reality of certain situations. You guys see a very narrow view sometimes of whatever the media chooses to represent, that's why I've always kind of made an effort to step in and make things clear. Sometimes for better, and sometimes maybe for worse. I'm pretty confident that if any of you were to go out to coffee with John and I to discuss this whole situation, or any other in the past, you'd have a very different view on reality when you saw the trust we have for each other, the factors involved, etc. 

 

Just tryin to be real with you guys.

Fair enough..

Thats a fair comment and something I can believe.

[Hairy]

Looks like he is paying extra attention to the cranks in this pic

 

 

[Hairy]

So the next two weekends we are treated to some DH action again

[Headshot]

Thank goodness. All this  XCO expert commentary on the other threads has been tiring. 

[Headshot]

I'm hoping GM can pull his socks up. I can't remember when Last I saw him finish a race or start one ...

[Grease_Monkey]

I'm hoping GM can pull his socks up. I can't remember when Last I saw him finish a race or start one ...

I'll try my best.

[Odinson]

Tough one to call. 

 

I'd say Gwin can be counted out and I'm not convinced GM is up to speed, despite his track record at Ft. Bill. 

 

I think a French/USA podium seems likely. Bruni, Pierron, Vergier, Norton. Mr Consistent will also be there somewhere. Shaw will probably put in a blistering quali run and then choke in the finals.