Warthog Posted March 12, 2019 Share I recall one of the human interest stories after the AF 447 flight was about a French family of 4 (2 parents, 2 children) who always believed in flying as 1 parent & 1 child in two separate planes so that a plane crash would not get them all. Two of them perished on that flight. I just think the guilt that the surviving two family members would have must be so hard to bear that was it worth it? Sometimes cold, hard science is one thing (i.e. maximising the chance to have the family genes continue), but emotions must be another. Not a chance in this house. Rather all of us at once than one left behind... patham, Bateleur1 and DJR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted March 12, 2019 Share Interestingly.... The ill fated Ethiopian 737 flew from Joburg to Adis on the same morning, the flight before.... The copilot, had very low hours.... 200 reportedlyThe Captain had over 8000 hrs Very unlikely the First Officer could only have had 200 hours flying time, why I could be a FO then According to others that have picked up this number it seems the 200 hours is with Ethopian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Very unlikely the First Officer could only have had 200 hours flying time, why I could be a FO then According to others that have picked up this number it seems the 200 hours is with EthopianIt’s a devious scheme by some airlines to solve the pilot availability problem and to short track pilots straight from flying school to the RH seat. Think they call it a MPL.... multi purpose license LOLNo actually it’s a Multicrew Pilot License.... not even the same as a Commercial Pilots License. Typical they have very low actual flying experience (hrs) and probably more time flying in a Simulator. Anyway, it’s just an interesting point, don’t want to blame it on the copilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patham Posted March 12, 2019 Share InterestingThe more local authorities (ie anyone other than the FAA) start doing this is, it points to their being potentially something major wrong that needs to be fixed and not just a random *** luck event. Read some interesting stuff on the Max series which I never realised before today.... google MCAS 737 Max and why they introduced it (MCAS) I see that overnight the UK and EU have also stopped the Max flights. KInd of leaves the FAA in the US exposed. I do recall from some of the Air Crash Investigations (how credible they are as sources is another matter) about how much political and commercial pressure is brought to bear on the FAA/NTSB not to ground the mainstream American commercial airliners unless the evidence is overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted March 13, 2019 Share I see that overnight the UK and EU have also stopped the Max flights. KInd of leaves the FAA in the US exposed. I do recall from some of the Air Crash Investigations (how credible they are as sources is another matter) about how much political and commercial pressure is brought to bear on the FAA/NTSB not to ground the mainstream American commercial airliners unless the evidence is overwhelming.Regarding the FAA/USA It might be that the US Operators are ahead of the game and their pilots are better prepared for the MAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patham Posted March 13, 2019 Share Going though my old hard drive has made me realise I have spotted some interesting planes along the way. This must be Boeing least attractive model - 747 conversion into the Dreamlifter for carrying 787 components around. Seen at Paine Field, on an Everett Boeing factory tour. Unfortunately no photos allowed inside. Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted March 13, 2019 Share The blancolirio is a very experienced commercial pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Copy of the FAA "Continued Airworthiness Notification to the International Community" dated 11 March 2019 regarding the 737 MAX fleet FAA CANIC 737 MAX.pdf Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted March 13, 2019 Share Going though my old hard drive has made me realise I have spotted some interesting planes along the way. This must be Boeing least attractive model - 747 conversion into the Dreamlifter for carrying 787 components around. Seen at Paine Field, on an Everett Boeing factory tour. Unfortunately no photos allowed inside. patham and Spokey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patham Posted March 13, 2019 Share The second prototype 787 was on the production line inside the factory when I visited. But that factory is just huge - if you have a few hours spare its worth doing research on in itself. Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bateleur1 Posted March 13, 2019 Share I see that Germany has banned the 737 Max 8 from flying in German Airspace yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted March 13, 2019 Share I see that Germany has banned the 737 Max 8 from flying in German Airspace yesterday.EASA as well, via an EASA Airworthiness DirectiveEASA = EU Aviation authority Edited March 13, 2019 by SwissVan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted March 13, 2019 Share Via Twitter: Breaking news: @CNN has learned that at least 5 pilots in the US reported problems controlling Boeing 737 Max 8 jets during critical moments of flight in recent months, according to records in a federal government incident database. Why are these jets still flying in the US??? https://twitter.com/javimorgado/status/1105766895662309376 Capricorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted March 13, 2019 Share EASA as well, via an EASA Airworthiness DirectiveEASA = EU Aviation authorityFAA=Federal Aviation AdministrationEASA=European Aviation Safety AgencyCAA=Civil Aviation Authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted March 13, 2019 Share Via Twitter: Breaking news: @CNN has learned that at least 5 pilots in the US reported problems controlling Boeing 737 Max 8 jets during critical moments of flight in recent months, according to records in a federal government incident database. Why are these jets still flying in the US??? https://twitter.com/javimorgado/status/1105766895662309376Also heard a rumor that there has been at least 2 double in flight engine shutdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted March 13, 2019 Share Also heard a rumor that there has been at least 2 double in flight engine shutdowns. If this plays out the way it seems to be heading at present, I will not at all be surprised if Boeing faces some insane class-action law suit by relatives of all people who died in both Lion Air and Ethiopian. Some astute lawyers will be making sure that this never gets out of sight of the interested and affected, as they most likely foresee a big payday approaching, albeit at a slow pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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