#4 EVERESTING 4 DAYS, WORLD RECORD ATTEMPT! #1 @BAINES & @OU KAAPS. #2 CHARITIES.

[Quagga]

I dont know how correct this INFO is.

According to the "EVEREST CALCULATOR".

 

Proper Bainskloof, Wellington WC South Africa

View on Strava » LAPS & DISTANCE

Total Laps 8.7 Lap Distance. 24.8 km, Total Distance 216.9 km

ELEVATION INFO

Total Lap Gain 1012 m Avg. Gradient 3.4%

Ascent Gain 719 m

 

I got led to believe as to the "Everest calculator" I had ridden more than enough to reach an Everest elevation.

Not sure if it might have anything to do with me Recording my ride on a Phone.

The phone does not have a Barometric altimeter and merely relies on Strava data.

 

 

[Quagga]

I hate to be the bad guy here, but I'm confused.  Why did you stop at 14 laps?  All of the calculations beforehand showed that you'd need to do 20 laps to get to the Everest total.  Unfortunately no amount of Strava elevation fixing is going to add the missing 2400m needed.  Your Strava ride is pretty close in terms of true elevation gain.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's a big ride, not an Everest one. 

Where do you find that it needs 20 laps?? Go to the everesting calculator and you will see 

[NickGM]

 

Ahh.... I think I see.

 

OK so there are a handful of bainskloof segments on strava. I believe that this is the one that you used:

https://www.strava.com/segments/4263558

It has quite a "sawtooth" profile. Lots of ups and downs along the way that probably aren't there. I think this happens when the person who recorded the segment first had a bit of a dodgy GPS and it was trying to interpolate between contours etc. All those ups and downs add up over each lap and give you an incorrect elevation value.

If you punch the ID of this segment into the everest calculator you get:

Which I suspect is what you were aiming for. 

 

If you add an almost identical segment (except that it is smooth) into the everest calculator, you get:

https://www.strava.com/segments/907329

 

So that is pretty unfortunate. Well done anyway, it's something I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to do. And I'm younger than you. 

[ChrisF]

Where do you find that it needs 20 laps?? Go to the everesting calculator and you will see 

 

I think Paul confused some of us .. well ME ...

 

Paul repeatedly spoke of "24 hours 24 laps", then stated it would take 22 laps to cover the elevation .... maybe he had a shorter lap in mind at the time ?

 

 

 

Either way, MAMOTH effort !!  Absolute RESPECT !!

[dirtypot]

Where do you find that it needs 20 laps?? Go to the everesting calculator and you will see 

 

As I mentioned when I posted about the Everesting Calculator initially, the info it provides needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.  It might be ok out somewhere with a hill and no other terrain around, but with our mountains it has a problem.  It shows the road traversing up and down the Google gradient map while it snakes upwards.  This creates vastly inaccurate route profile and therefore can't be used as a sole "outcome generator".  

The best way is to use the data captured from actual rides.  David did this and calculated 20 laps to get the Everest and 22 laps to get the HRS (http://highrouleur.cc/what/). 

What I don't understand is why he reverted back to the Everesting Calculator instead of the hard data which he had to hand. 

[Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail"]

If your descent includes a bit of climbing this still counts toward your total. Keep in mind that this is a climbing challenge, and routes with ‘kinetic gain’ should be checked via the everesting calculator first. The calculator has a built-in ‘check’ on descent elevation gain.

[ChrisF]

Maths would suggest the following :

 

Eversting height required : 8848m

 

Height per lap of Bainskloof : 429m (depending on exact start and finish points)

 

Thus 20,6 laps, add the bonus lap FRAIL was talking about and you get the 22 laps he spoke about in line one of post 1.

 

 

If anything, this just re-affirms what it takes to do an Everesting run !!  I dont know any people that can grind out the miles like Paul can, and he fell short of his target.

 

 

EDIT - thought FRAIL's name was Paul from other posts .... corrected this above.

Edited April 29, 2019 by ChrisF

[Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail"]

I have forwarded my application.

 

I await there response.

 

Thanks

[Andrew Steer]

Great ride Frail... a pity about not Everesting, but a mammoth and impressive ride none the less.

Just my 2cents, but this probably isn't the best climb for the job... on the right climb you'll get the job done in under 20hours and with far lower mileage.

Great effort none the less though - huge respect for a massive ride 

[Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail"]

Maths would suggest the following :

 

Eversting height required : 8848m

 

Height per lap of Bainskloof : 429m (depending on exact start and finish points)

 

Thus 20,6 laps, add the bonus lap Paul was talking about and you get the 22 laps he spoke about in line one of post 1.

 

 

If anything, this just re-affirms what it takes to do an Everesting run !!  I dont know any people that can grind out the miles like Paul can, and he fell short of his target.

 

Hello ChrisF

WHO is this Paul everyone is talking about?

I dont know Any Paul.

[Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail"]

Great ride Frail... a pity about not Everesting, but a mammoth and impressive ride none the less.

Just my 2cents, but this probably isn't the best climb for the job... on the right climb you'll get the job done in under 20hours and with far lower mileage.

 

Great effort none the less though - huge respect for a massive ride 

 

Hello Andrew Steer

If you know me by now.

I dont go for Half measures.

 

I was planning to go a full 22 laps.

But got convinced that i might have made an error in my calculations.

 

I think some of my Supporters want to Pack Up?

Forcing me to Stop?

[dirtypot]

I was planning to go a full 22 laps.

But got convinced that i might have made an error in my calculations.

 

I think some of my Supporters want to Pack Up?

Forcing me to Stop?

 

If that's the reason, then that's really disappointing.  The last thing you need when you're doing something like this is someone telling you to stop. 

[Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail"]

I asked Paul and he says it must have been the choice of gears...

 

Amazing effort to keep at it for 25 hours - you deserve all the contributions received (and more!).

 

Hello Edge_Design

 

Who is this person "Paul"?

That everyone is talking About!

[NickGM]

If your descent includes a bit of climbing this still counts toward your total. Keep in mind that this is a climbing challenge, and routes with ‘kinetic gain’ should be checked via the everesting calculator first. The calculator has a built-in ‘check’ on descent elevation gain.

 

For sure. But I think that the eversting calculator is using bad data. Little "spikes" in the digital record of the climb that don't actually exist in reality. eg: the one of the spikes shown below goes up about 50m over a distance of 200m. That's a 25% gradient. I've ridden bainskloof and those are not there. Also, I don't think it is humanly possibly to ride 25% (over 200m). 

So (and I mean no disrespect) those were free meters. Again, a monstrous effort. Respect. I don't think I can do anything for over 24 hours; be it ride, sleep, fish. Procrastinate - maybe. 

[Edge_Design]

Hello Edge_Design

 

Who is this person "Paul"?

That everyone is talking About!

 

He's another friendly South African cyclist who had a dream that he was the fastest in the whole world and he could prove it running on nothing but brocolli fumes... He then cancelled his Everest attempt (subsequently looks like it is happening again) and came up with a long video about why Everesting was just too easy for him and there was no point in him starting if he wasn't going to break 7 hours for it... Or something along those lines - I might be making up parts of it as I go along.

 

I was just referring to his infamous comment that Everesting really is easy if you have the right gearing (just meant as a joke - there was nothing easy about what you attempted!).

 

I see the same old Paul commented on your ride on Strava - he was the one pointing out that you didn't have the elevation (rather than congratulating the effort like most other people).

[Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail"]

He's another friendly South African cyclist who had a dream that he was the fastest in the whole world and he could prove it running on nothing but brocolli fumes... He then cancelled his Everest attempt (subsequently looks like it is happening again) and came up with a long video about why Everesting was just too easy for him and there was no point in him starting if he wasn't going to break 7 hours for it... Or something along those lines - I might be making up parts of it as I go along.

 

I was just referring to his infamous comment that Everesting really is easy if you have the right gearing (just meant as a joke - there was nothing easy about what you attempted!).

 

I see the same old Paul commented on your ride on Strava - he was the one pointing out that you didn't have the elevation (rather than congratulating the effort like most other people).

 

AH That guy.