Eddy Gordo Posted July 13, 2023 Share 4 hours ago, Jewbacca said: haha yeah... the aero vs light for a weekend warrior is an interesting one. A lot of people on the road don't ride fast enough to actually benefit from the marginal gains of either, so in reality it's a moot point. For those slightly more serious, my understanding is that those with power benefit more from an aero bike and suffer less from the weight penalty, while those who are super light and less powerful on the flats benefit more from a light bike and less from an aero bike. But then just buy both surely and don't forget to put a bespoke hand made recycled bar bag on for your spares....... I understand how the weights can affect someones performance. For me personally its my body weight. If I am lighter I ride alot better, especially on climbs. I have compare same routes on a 7.8kg road bike vs a I think 12kg hardtail. I am faster on some sections with the mtb on tar with knobbies. I am faster on the roadi over long straights, but if I am a few kg's lighter then I am faster on the roadie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted July 13, 2023 Share 5 hours ago, DieselnDust said: Is this from actual weights of bikes in the tour weighed by an accredited source of or this based on models of bikes ridden but weight taken from similar bike on the shop floor? the interesting bit of data is the convergence in the weight of lightweight vs aero bike and I suspect that is simply because aero bike have become less aero and lightweight bikes are more aero hence the convergence " A Few Words About This Research When searching for the weights of the TdF road bikes, I faced multiple challenges: The bike weights vary depending on the bike size, specifications, and components. Not all weights were available (e.g., on the manufacturers’ websites, in magazines, or online). This means the overall results are slightly skewed, but I did my best to provide you with the most accurate answers." I found this on last years tour where they actually weighed certain riders bikes. https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2022-tour-de-france-bike-weights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted July 13, 2023 Share 2 hours ago, Meezo said: anyone know what tyre types majority of riders are riding. i read somewhere most still riding tubular tyres... to allow them to roll until the support arrives is this the case? https://road.cc/content/feature/why-tubeless-now-rules-tour-de-france-peloton-302165 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 14, 2023 Share Some say that, 20 years ago, this guy made off-road popular.. DieselnDust, peetwindhoek and El Duderino 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 14, 2023 Share And 7 years ago, this bloke ran up Mont Ventoux Mtree, El Duderino and W Smith 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted July 14, 2023 Share 4 minutes ago, Frosty said: Some say that, 20 years ago, this guy made off-road popular.. that's cheating isn't it? 🤠 Scary Rider and Frosty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 14, 2023 Share Today's finish... in case you didn't know the climb https://veloviewer.com/segments/1531786 Edited July 14, 2023 by Frosty mikkelz, Underachiever and TheoG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoG Posted July 14, 2023 Share 2 minutes ago, Frosty said: Today's finish... in case you didn't know the climb https://veloviewer.com/segments/1531786 I might die trying, but I would love to attempt it at least 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted July 14, 2023 Share 21 minutes ago, TheoG said: I might die trying, but I would love to attempt it at least 🤪 me too, and if I survive going up, I'd love to descend it with closed roads TheoG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 14, 2023 Share This is the full climb, all 16.35km while the segment above is only 1.6Km showing the switchbacks. https://www.strava.com/segments/644707?hl=en-GB https://veloviewer.com/segments/644707 Edited July 14, 2023 by Frosty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbr Posted July 15, 2023 Share On 7/13/2023 at 1:11 PM, SwissVan said: But in reality I wonder.... Riders eat and drink stuff all day without having a poop (except Mr Dumoulin 😬) and pour water (hopefully) over themselves without worrying about the extra added weight. Damn can you imagine Pogacar / Vinegaard looses the TDF because they poured to much water on themselves... or did not stop for a poop That water evaporates, and the excess falls off on the road anyways, wether it's sweat or water, the weight is the same, so rather be cool rather than worry about a non-problem. And the higher the weight, the less it matters, you want your wheels and bike to be lighter, for the rider, being fueled and cool matters more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 15, 2023 Share Louis is out NC_lurker, Scary Rider, Underachiever and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelGriff Posted July 15, 2023 Share Its so sad, for Louis. He was starting to climb up on the positions, and had hope for a big day today for him. mikkelz and Zebra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ouzo Posted July 15, 2023 Share What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 15, 2023 Share 1 minute ago, The Ouzo said: What happened? Slightly wet roads, not enough to wash everything away. As a result, a Lotto rider when down, and then many others followed suit. Apparently it was only Total Energies that didn't have a rider fall, every other team has at least one. Another crash, Bardet abandons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 15, 2023 Share Looks like Louis (bottom of screenshot) on the ground. Broken collar bone. Edited July 15, 2023 by Frosty splat, DieselnDust, Zebra and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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