Discovery suspends Basso !!!!!

[AfreekduSoet]

we seeing people loosing their jobs because of allegations in the freakin media and set out processes not being followed by the people that designed the process!!

 

We had no Vino last year in TdF coz of this nonsense and now here we go again....

[ewep]

 

 

I think they should just can this event . It is a breeding ground for drugs ' date=' prostitution and all other nice things and like Mr Crux said bad for the sport .[/quote']

 

I agree!!!!  DR is a POEPOL!!!

ewep2007-04-25 03:48:37

[Bikalot]

this puerto thing is so dragged out,lets just get it finished,bust the druggies,let the innocent race without all this sh*t still going on

[AndreZA]

I just think JB thought he could get away with it like with LA but IB was already a marked man before the Disco doctors could do their magic.

 

 

[E1A104]

And where were all of you that are now shouting baso's innocence when ullrich got handed the same treatment" basso and all those implicated should just front up, supply some DNA and let them test the blood alleged to belong to them and get it over with. As for it being a french plot ........ Y-A-W-N!!!

[widget]

I agree with Cruxpearl, "some folk just dont get it".

 

To say the procedure was wrong is ridiculous, who is saying so (besides except the athlete of course)?

 

Everybody including WADA and the UCI appear quite happy with the procedure, and they are the ones pulling the strings.

 

For goodness sake the UCI is doing their very best to get the Spanish judge to re-open the Puerto case - if they were unhappy with the "procedure" I doubt this would be happening.

 

In any case these labs are all accredited WADA labs and they are held (by WADA) to the highest standards.

AS for Floyd even the USADA has said they will accept without question the french labs repot.

 

Get over the French / American smokescreen (thrown up by largely American athletes) and look at the facts. 

 

As to it all been allegations regarding Basso, well again its a ridiculous comment, you can be a triple serial murderer, deny it, and until you get dragged through court its also all "allegations!!"

 

However, for an allegation to exist there has to be evidence, and where there is evidence, circumstantial or not, there is sufficient reason to suspend the athlete or arrest them. 

 

By the way, the Puerto case was never closed and Basso was never cleared - again this was a smokescreen thrown up by teams and others with a vested interest in seeing this fall of the radar - the fact is Puerto was ONLY closed in Spain and the judge said it could be re-opened at any time should new evidence arise. The case remained open in all other countries and athletes could be prosecuted by any other association like the German federation (Ullrich) based on the facts at hand.

 

Basso was only "cleared" to race, he was not cleared  of the charge (there is a differance) and he remained under investigation by the Italian federation as has now been shown. 

 

To close Cycle Sport magazine (written three months ago) pre-empted the now Basso suspension.

They predicted Basso s case was weak, the Italian federation were looking at new evidence and that Discovery erred in signing Basso and will probably have to suspend / release a very highly paid cyclist.

 

The fact that they could predict this three months ago, shows there is compelling evidence here. 

 

 

[nochain]

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In any case these labs are all accredited WADA labs and they are held (by WADA) to the highest standards.

AS for Floyd even the USADA has said they will accept without question the french labs report."

 

Agree Widget ,USADA had full access of the testing procedures and were on-site the whole time and they are happy with the way everything was conducted. 

 

[101%]

I guess Time will tell!! The truth about Basso will be known shortly!!!

 

BUT!!! what pisses me off is why only Basso and Ulrich?????

 

Where are the other 50 odd names/riders ??? mancebo???beloki ond others??? why are most of them still racing ? why wheren't all the names released and then there names also dragged through the mud?

 

Double standards!!! or a head hunt!!

 

[widget]

Yes, sure no chain.

 

Landis is a cheat, there is no doubt in my mind, this American / French nonsense is just ridiculous.

 

People seem to think these labs only test cyclists for doping, fact is thats a small part of their business, they test for hospitals, surgery, specialists, life threatining situations where accuracy is not just important its vital, testing for drug induced metabolic changes is childs play for these labs.

  

widget2007-04-26 03:32:48

[vulgar]

 On the topic off dope, those ones quoting Pantani should think twice...

He wouldnt have said those things with out the help of DRUGS.

 

HE was no HERO...He was a COKE junkie long before he died of an overdose.He fell in to a pit of denial. He tried to go without dope(giro 2003) but could not perform and was mentally cracked. Praising druggies is wrong, they should be ignored and DIE, they give no glory to our sport(all)...they are an insult to the ones training everyday.They scare sponsors away!!!!!

SCREW EM

 

[widget]

I guess Time will tell!! The truth about Basso will be known shortly!!!

 

BUT!!! what pisses me off is why only Basso and Ulrich?????

 

Where are the other 50 odd names/riders ??? mancebo???beloki ond others??? why are most of them still racing ? why wheren't all the names released and then there names also dragged through the mud?

 

Double standards!!! or a head hunt!!

 

 

No, actually they arnt, of all the cyclists named and involved in Puerto, only Basso and initially Mancebo got teams - all of the others like Beloki, Gutierrez, Unia Osa, Aitor Ossa, David Extebarria and of course Oscar Sevilla are all standing in the dole line, no team would sign them.

 

Mancebo has not raced to the best of my knowledge.

 

Now it looks like Basso could be joining them.  

 

[101%]

I guess Time will tell!! The truth about Basso will be known shortly!!!

 

BUT!!! what pisses me off is why only Basso and Ulrich?????

 

Where are the other 50 odd names/riders ??? mancebo???beloki ond others??? why are most of them still racing ? why wheren't all the names released and then there names also dragged through the mud?

 

Double standards!!! or a head hunt!!

 

 

No' date=' actually they arnt, of all the cyclists named and involved in Puerto, only Basso and initially Mancebo got teams - all of the others like Beloki, Gutierrez, Unia Osa, Aitor Ossa, David Extebarria and of course Oscar Sevilla are all standing in the dole line, no team would sign them.

 

Mancebo has not raced to the best of my knowledge.

 

Now it looks like Basso could be joining them.  

 

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Jorge Jakske (Spelling Just signed for Astana) . Plus there are one or two others with teams. Point is there where more than just these few names involved. Why have the others not been named.

 

 

[TNT1]

 

I guess Time will tell!! The truth about Basso will be known shortly!!!

 

BUT!!! what pisses me off is why only Basso and Ulrich?????

 

Where are the other 50 odd names/riders ??? mancebo???beloki ond others??? why are most of them still racing ? why wheren't all the names released and then there names also dragged through the mud?

 

Double standards!!! or a head hunt!!

 

 

No' date=' actually they arnt, of all the cyclists named and involved in Puerto, only Basso and initially Mancebo got teams - all of the others like Beloki, Gutierrez, Unia Osa, Aitor Ossa, David Extebarria and of course Oscar Sevilla are all standing in the dole line, no team would sign them.

 

Mancebo has not raced to the best of my knowledge.

 

Now it looks like Basso could be joining them.  

 

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Jorge Jakske (Spelling Just signed for Astana) . Plus there are one or two others with teams. Point is there where more than just these few names involved. Why have the others not been named.

 

 

 

I think that out of the names you mention, most are Spanish. Didn't the Spanish court through this case out?

If so, then it is up to the riders own national federations to investigate and if necessary sanction them. Clearly this is a lengthy process and also clearly, the Spanish rider's are less likely to be further investigated.

So it seems to me that the rider's luck to be able to race or not depends largely on whether their nat fed follows up this investigation. That or if Christian Prudhomme (or some other ASO Hotshot) decides he doesn't want you at his races...

 

[widget]

No, sure, I agree with you 101%, the signing of Basso (who is tainted goods, in my opinion) was heavily critisised by the pro tour team management and a few riders (Voigt been one) - but Discovery flashed the cheque book a bit early here and may live to regret it.

 

I think most teams have abided by the unwritten rule of "not signing riders involved or under any investigation" but of course there are always those (like Discovery) with deep pockets who think its okay to fight it out in court later or / if ever.

 

With ASO now standing firm as well, these riders may find it hard to get into races, and then "no team will want them."

 

widget2007-04-26 03:45:51

[Cruxpearl]

I for One support ASO wholeheartedly, as they are the only ones with the balls to make a stand. They are incidentally also the ones that stand to lose the most, should people (Spectators / Sponsors, etc, etc) turn their back on the Tour, and therefore are fighting tooth and nail to get the riders to clean up their act, or refuse them entry....

The UCI doesn't give a sh*t!!, all they want is to lay their hands on the commercial rights to the Grand Tours through their precious Protour cock up!!!

[TNT1]

 

I for One support ASO wholeheartedly' date=' as they are the only ones with the balls to make a stand. They are incidentally also the ones that stand to lose the most, should people (Spectators / Sponsors, etc, etc) turn their back on the Tour, and therefore are fighting tooth and nail to get the riders to clean up their act, or refuse them entry....

The UCI doesn't give a sh*t!!, all they want is to lay their hands on the commercial rights to the Grand Tours through their precious Protour cock up!!![/quote']

Well said, I also support the ASO's stand. Death to the ProTour!