Cricket......

[Shebeen]

according the current law that is out.

 

i think the law should change slightly from  "first contact with ball" to "every contact with ball".

 

you want to avoid the scenario where someone can juggle / hop until a fielder gets close enough (or they rejoin the field themselves).

 

end of the day, amazing athleticism/skills/quick thinking

 

 

edit. I'm happy for this to remain out. if you're going to play the ball whilst in the air you either need to start or finish your jump within the field of play. also happy for people to start outside the boundary but then land inside whilst still in control of ball.

 

Edited January 9, 2020 by Shebeen

[Vetplant]

[sNIP]

 

if you're going to play the ball whilst in the air you either need to start or finish your jump within the field of play. also happy for people to start outside the boundary but then land inside whilst still in control of ball.

 

 

As a spectator, that makes sense to me.

 

Or they need to take out all ambiguity and say that as soon as you have touched outside the ground, you are not eligible to touch the ball anymore. You will need to try and throw it to your teammate if it seems like you are falling out.

[gemmerbal]

the rule is simple really, you cannot be in contact with the ball and the ground beyond the boundary line at the same time. of course you can parry the ball back to complete the catch yourself, or for the catch to be completed by a team mate, provided you are not grounded beyond the boundary line when in the act of parrying and whoever completes the catch is legally within the field of play. he was in the air when he parried the ball back to his buddy, thus the catch stands. personally I don't see the confusion - player never had contact with the ball and ground (beyond boundary line) at the same time - easy! some might disagree with it, but thats ok, the rules will always upset some people, god knows why they just cannot accept the rules for being the rules.

 

[yes, I completed a level 2 umpiring course before I played semi pro cricket in England... ]

Edited January 9, 2020 by gemmerbal

[gemmerbal]

furthermore, i forgot to add, when the bowler delivers the ball, all 11 players (i know it sounds redundant, but that is the wording) of the fielding side must be legally within the field of play. so no, you cannot wait beyond the boundary line when the ball is delivered; if you are outside of the playing field when the ball is delivered and then re-enter the field of play to interact with the ball, you are doing so illegally and 5 penalty runs will be awarded to the batting side.

 

Edit: yes you see players signing autographs and whatnot beyond the boundary, but you will see that they always return timeously before the ball is delivered, which is perfectly legal.

Edited January 9, 2020 by gemmerbal

[I FLY]

I played baseball and softball for many years. 

 

Chirping or sledging is a huge part of the game.

 

As my position was one the closest to the opposition batters my secondary duty was to "talk" to them in order to get them to lose focus.

 

That also make me a target but I learnt very early on to be able to either zone it out or use it to motivate me

 

When we played against Western Province, in particular ,those players used to ask the crowd sitting near my position to also sledge me. These were some of the nicest games I played in as afterwards those same players and spectators would socialise with my team. No hard feelings or resentment.

[gemmerbal]

awesome! see, that is how it is supposed to be, play hard then socialise hard!

 

 

I played baseball and softball for many years. 

 

Chirping or sledging is a huge part of the game.

 

As my position was one the closest to the opposition batters my secondary duty was to "talk" to them in order to get them to lose focus.

 

That also make me a target but I learnt very early on to be able to either zone it out or use it to motivate me

 

When we played against Western Province, in particular ,those players used to ask the crowd sitting near my position to also sledge me. These were some of the nicest games I played in as afterwards those same players and spectators would socialise with my team. No hard feelings or resentment.

[Vetplant]

Butler fined for his foul mouth tirade

 

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/sa-vs-eng-englands-jos-buttler-fined-for-using-obscene-language-breaching-icc-code-of-conduct-912348

 

Look, I get that chirping is part of your game, but going foul mouthed is not on.

 

It is a family show and kids are watching, so keep it clean. You are supposedly a professional, so try to act like it. Else, go play club cricket, I'm sure the ooms there will be happy to pull out some colourful language that will make you blush.

[gemmerbal]

the biggest mistake he made was forgetting that he was standing right over the mic...

 

Butler fined for his foul mouth tirade

 

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/sa-vs-eng-englands-jos-buttler-fined-for-using-obscene-language-breaching-icc-code-of-conduct-912348

 

Look, I get that chirping is part of your game, but going foul mouthed is not on.

 

It is a family show and kids are watching, so keep it clean. You are supposedly a professional, so try to act like it. Else, go play club cricket, I'm sure the ooms there will be happy to pull out some colourful language that will make you blush.

[Vetplant]

the biggest mistake he made was forgetting that he was standing right over the mic...

I know you just pulling my leg, but I'd still like to get your honest feeling on foul language on the pitch, specifically in the Professional game. I don't mind a slip-up here or there, stuff happens. But is it acceptable to get personal and attack mothers/sisters etc to win the game, or foul mouthed insults?

 

I still find it strange that in something as barbaric as rugby you can get a Ref like Nigel Owens who is able to demand mutual respect from 130kg men and keep the language on the field fairly clean compared to the "Gentleman's Sport" of Cricket.

[LongDonkey]

the rule is simple really, you cannot be in contact with the ball and the ground beyond the boundary line at the same time. of course you can parry the ball back to complete the catch yourself, or for the catch to be completed by a team mate, provided you are not grounded beyond the boundary line when in the act of parrying and whoever completes the catch is legally within the field of play. he was in the air when he parried the ball back to his buddy, thus the catch stands. personally I don't see the confusion - player never had contact with the ball and ground (beyond boundary line) at the same time - easy! some might disagree with it, but thats ok, the rules will always upset some people, god knows why they just cannot accept the rules for being the rules.

 

[yes, I completed a level 2 umpiring course before I played semi pro cricket in England... ]

I acknowledge what the rule says, but it is simply wrong to my mind. How can a player jump up and down juggling the ball while in the air, effectively indefinitely outside the boundary, then decide its time to come back into the field of play half an hour later and claim a catch.

I am fine with a fielder launching from outside the field with the ball in the air touching and landing back within the field o play to claim a catch or an assisted catch. But you can not jump up and down outside the rope and claim it is legal.

Fair play and spirit of the game should have an overriding input here.

I vote for a clarification of the rule which the law makers could not have reasonably foreseen by some athletic behaviour of a smart fielder.

[Shebeen]

I know you just pulling my leg, but I'd still like to get your honest feeling on foul language on the pitch, specifically in the Professional game. I don't mind a slip-up here or there, stuff happens. But is it acceptable to get personal and attack mothers/sisters etc to win the game, or foul mouthed insults?

 

I still find it strange that in something as barbaric as rugby you can get a Ref like Nigel Owens who is able to demand mutual respect from 130kg men and keep the language on the field fairly clean compared to the "Gentleman's Sport" of Cricket.

and when you get an actual KNOBHEAD using that language he gets an early shower.

 

wish soccer refs could do the same.

[Vetplant]

and when you get an actual KNOBHEAD using that language he gets an early shower.

 

wish soccer refs could do the same.

Love it! Thanks for sharing.

 

Especially as a Captain, more is expected of you.

 

"This is rugby, not football" 

[VicanZA]

and when you get an actual KNOBHEAD using that language he gets an early shower.

 

never gonna happen in football 

 

corrected. 

[Stretch]

I know you just pulling my leg, but I'd still like to get your honest feeling on foul language on the pitch, specifically in the Professional game. I don't mind a slip-up here or there, stuff happens. But is it acceptable to get personal and attack mothers/sisters etc to win the game, or foul mouthed insults?

 

I still find it strange that in something as barbaric as rugby you can get a Ref like Nigel Owens who is able to demand mutual respect from 130kg men and keep the language on the field fairly clean compared to the "Gentleman's Sport" of Cricket.

You still gonna hear foul words in the scrum or wherever. Personal attacks are not on... For example... McGrath when his wife was undergoing chemotherapy....but Taunts and jeers are therefore to put the batsmen or bowler off guard... If it occasionally involves calling someone a lady part or whatever I don't see a problem with that

[bertusras]

Butler fined for his foul mouth tirade

 

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/sa-vs-eng-englands-jos-buttler-fined-for-using-obscene-language-breaching-icc-code-of-conduct-912348

 

Look, I get that chirping is part of your game, but going foul mouthed is not on.

 

It is a family show and kids are watching, so keep it clean. You are supposedly a professional, so try to act like it. Else, go play club cricket, I'm sure the ooms there will be happy to pull out some colourful language that will make you blush.

 

Yeah I agree, they're supposedly professional sportsmen.

 

At least a similar punishment has been handed down as what Rabada got in 2007 after telling Ben Stokes to "F*** off" (in the heat of the moment, as opposed to this Buttler mouthing) following his dismissal.

[gemmerbal]

i respect that you might find the rule confusing or maybe dont agree with it, but that doesnt change the fact that that is what the rule is, and when you partake in a sport, you accept the rules as they are written by the law-makers, you dont complain about the ones you dont like in hope of it being changed because then we will never have a set of rules/laws that pleases everyone. I say this respectfully, please dont read it as being a snide comment or being sarcastic. It is just my view that when you sign that membership form at the first net practice at your local club, you agree to the laws as defined by the lawmakers and play within them as defined by such, yes?

 

If the rules say I cannot ride the K2C on a gravel bike, i dont go there on a gravel bike (unless your dad is the organiser, so im told...)

 

Technically, your argument is correct, you could juggle the ball behind the boundary line as long as there is no simultaneous contact with ball and ground, I say technically, but REALISTICALLY that is highly unlikely ever to happen, thus not impossible but highly unlikely. Therefor I cannot agree.

I acknowledge what the rule says, but it is simply wrong to my mind. How can a player jump up and down juggling the ball while in the air, effectively indefinitely outside the boundary, then decide its time to come back into the field of play half an hour later and claim a catch.

I am fine with a fielder launching from outside the field with the ball in the air touching and landing back within the field o play to claim a catch or an assisted catch. But you can not jump up and down outside the rope and claim it is legal.

Fair play and spirit of the game should have an overriding input here.

I vote for a clarification of the rule which the law makers could not have reasonably foreseen by some athletic behaviour of a smart fielder.