BSG Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Any idea if tickets are still available?I'm not sure, we bought ours already 2 weeks ago, on 10m line 10th row from the front about.
flymango Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Terrible rugby between Sharks and Stormers. Can't believe a team playing so many Bokke got beaten by a bunch of reserves from the Cape. And before that the Bulls with also a bunch of Bokke got beaten by a spirited team from Jozi. Things look very ominous for the Bokke. Heineke is gonna have lots of nightmares tonight. And yet again Heineke excludes the finest fetcher in world rugby from his final squad. It has to be personal. Wonder why or what? Dexter-morgan 1
Christie Posted June 1, 2014 Posted June 1, 2014 Geepers, have we not got players in the country that has at least enough talent to play the Welsh? The number of foreign based players in the squad bothers me a lot - rather select SA based players, unless there is no alternative. My second gripe is with the older players, who must have one eye on retirement. Sure, some of them may be justified, but it looks as if Meyer is looking after his old gang. Thumbs down. BSG 1
scotty Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 No Lions, cool with that. While the other teams all have to supply players who will be tired and fatigued on return we will be fresh Joeboy69 and Dexter-morgan 2
'Dale Posted June 2, 2014 Author Posted June 2, 2014 My interest in the Bokke has never been this low: An uninspiring and nervous coachA Blue Bok favored selection drive The 'bigger players are better' bias Fragrances of racism :-/
JGR Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 My interest in the Bokke has never been this low: An uninspiring and nervous coachA Blue Bok favored selection driveThe 'bigger players are better' biasFragrances of racism :-/Nervous coach? We only lost to the AB's last year and had one of the best seasons for some time.Blue Bulls 7 Players in the squad, only 3 forwards (I support the Stormers btw)Its the same formula Bok teams have been chosen on for years.Racism? Really? There are more non white players in this squad than previous ones? Can you elaborate on your sweeping statement? Willem Alberts (Sharks), Loose forward - 30 Test capsBakkies Botha (Toulon, France), Lock - 78Schalk Brits (Saracens, England), Hooker - 5Schalk Burger (Western Province), Loose forward - 68Marcell Coetzee (Sharks), Loose forward - 15Damian De Allende (Western Province), Centre / Wing - 0Lodewyk de Jager (FS Cheetahs), Lock - 0Juan de Jongh (Western Province), Centre - 14Bismarck du Plessis (Sharks), Hooker - 57Jannie du Plessis (Sharks), Prop - 51Fourie du Preez (Suntory, Japan), Scrumhalf - 67JJ Engelbrecht (Blue Bulls), Centre / Wing - 12Johan Goosen (FS Cheetahs), Flyhalf - 4Bryan Habana (Toulon, France), Wing - 95Cornal Hendricks (FS Cheetahs), Wing - 0Francois Hougaard (Blue Bulls), Scrumhalf - 27Zane Kirchner (Leinster, Ireland), Fullback - 28Siya Kolisi (Western Province), Loose forward - 10Willie le Roux (FS Cheetahs), Fullback / Wing - 12Francois Louw (Bath, England), Loose forward - 28Victor Matfield (Blue Bulls), Lock - 110Teboho “Oupa” Mohoje (FS Cheetahs), Loose forward - 0Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Prop - 53Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks), Wing - 7Coenie Oosthuizen (FS Cheetahs), Prop - 14Ruan Pienaar (Ulster, Northern Ireland), Scrumhalf - 74JP Pietersen (Sharks), Wing - 51Jan Serfontein (Blue Bulls), Centre - 9S’bura Sithole (Sharks), Wing / Centre - 0Gurthrö Steenkamp (Toulouse, France), Prop - 49Frans Steyn (Sharks), Utility back - 53Morné Steyn (Stade Francais, France), Flyhalf - 54Flip van der Merwe (Blue Bulls), Lock - 34Marcel van der Merwe (Blue Bulls), Prop - 0Duane Vermeulen (Western Province), No 8 - 16Callie Visagie (Blue Bulls), Hooker - 0
flymango Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 My Test starting 15, together with reserves. But we will likely see a very different team on Saturday in Cape Town. 15 Willie le Roux14 JP Pietersen13 Jan Serfontein (although he is a world-class 12 in the making)12 Frans Steyn (assuming he doesn't carry injuries)11 Brian Habana10 Morne Steyn (but he's had a poor season in France and Goosen has been on and off)9 Fourie du Preez1 Tendai Mtawarira2 Bismarck du Plessis3 Jannie du Plessis4 Bakkies Botha5 Victor Matfield6 Francois Louw7 Willem Alberts8 Duane Vermeulen Coenie OosthuizenGurthro SteenkampFlip van der MerweMarcell CoetzeeOupa MohojeRuan PienaarJJ EngelbrechtJohan Goosen Greybeard 1
JJDT Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Have to agree with 'Dale on the bokke. Not into the racism debate but with the "expats" playing. The guys at home in all provinces or franchises to give their best in order to be selected. The coach on the other hand is more interested in the "pensioners" or who turned their back on Bok rugby to play for $$$. Surely it is their right to make up for a pension and to be chosen for their respective clubs for matches.Well you need experience but there is quite a few guys at home with experience to coach the "noobs" in the squad. Basically saying to the guys here no use to play for the bok squad because it will be a fruitless effort.
JGR Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Have to agree with 'Dale on the bokke. Not into the racism debate but with the "expats" playing. The guys at home in all provinces or franchises to give their best in order to be selected. The coach on the other hand is more interested in the "pensioners" or who turned their back on Bok rugby to play for $$$. Surely it is their right to make up for a pension and to be chosen for their respective clubs for matches.Well you need experience but there is quite a few guys at home with experience to coach the "noobs" in the squad. Basically saying to the guys here no use to play for the bok squad because it will be a fruitless effort.Why should the location of your job influence if you play for your country. How did they turn their back on the Boks if there is no rule on playing aboard. The only reason Bakies/Victor (btw has the tops stats in SR) has been drafted in is because of the crazy injuries we have had at lock. Also these guys are part of the squad not the starting 15 - which 'home' players would you have in their place? There purpose is to also guide and mentor young players not deny young talent - once again please tell me which lock in SA have more exp and are better than them? FDP is the best scrum half we have and it is also up to the youngsters to put their hands up ... very few have. Greybeard 1
Greybeard Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Was I imagining it or did the Sharks look exhausted. That's not to say that the Stormers played good rugby, but this is evidence that the Super system is not allowing players recovery time.They played a tight winning game in NZ and I think it took it out of them. It didn't help that Hynecke " Blue" Meyer decided on a training camp that would have forced a lot extra effort by so many of the players and cut into the franchise training and I believe this affected the Bulls, Sharks and Stormers( To a lesser degree). The Lions were able to build up their "Gees" over a whole week and it showed in their approach.The injury lists surely tell a sad story. Again............what else does Reinach have to do to catch Meyer's eye?
JJDT Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Agree on this stage we do have a problem with locks because of injuries. The scrumhalf you mentioned imo I think Reinach deserves a naming because he was plying well last year and this year as well just before his injury, choosing Pienaar who is not up to par... What about Brussow he is currently the best no6 in SA? Surely there are better fullbacks than Kirchner.... Goosen who was rushed to play for the boks is having an injury nightmare...Steyn on the other hand is struggling with injuries...Catrikillis and Boshoff should've been rewarded to be in the squad.
dev null Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 I worry because it looks like Meyer is planning on using pensioners for the RWC next year. Surely he should use this year to bleed the youngsters. And the style of rugby that we currently play, we will have lots of injured players all the time. Wannabe 1
'Dale Posted June 2, 2014 Author Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Who's the next best captain? Bismarck composed enough?Schalk the Hulk fit enough?Victor - motivated and inspired enough?Etc. Important decision. GO BOKKIES Edited June 2, 2014 by ' Dale
Lou Zealand Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 Under 20 RWC Results (Round One): Australia 36-17 ArgentinaWales 48-19 FijiSouth Africa 61-5 ScotlandEngland 63-3 ItalyFrance 19-13 IrelandNew Zealand 48-12 Samoa
Wannabe Posted June 2, 2014 Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Under 20 RWC Results (Round One): Australia 36-17 ArgentinaWales 48-19 FijiSouth Africa 61-5 Scotland England 63-3 ItalyFrance 19-13 IrelandNew Zealand 48-12 Samoa Edited June 2, 2014 by Wannabe
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