DIPSLICK Posted October 7, 2013 Share ALL THE HEAVY HITTERS WILL come on now and say "its easy,its nothing",, personally i think if you clock a sub 3 you earn bragging rights IMHO Denny Menchov 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted October 7, 2013 Share I couldn't turn a 2h39 94.7 into a sub 3 Argus. (Came in at 3h00m37s) and the weather was GOOD this year. Only the first 481 positions got sub 3 braging rights this year.The thing that makes that sub 3 so illusive is the fact that Argus is 15km further than 94.7.At 30km/h 15km takes 30mins... 45km/h to do 15km in 20mins...You need to be quick for sub 3. That and you need to be at the front of the pack when the breaks happen at Smits, Chappies and Suikerbossie. You need to have a group that works TOGETHER to do the sub-3 from one of the front groups - 6 - 10 people who work together should be able to crack it if they co-operate - given a decent sub E start group. ImoA 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylolylo Posted October 7, 2013 Share Since we asking...last road race I did was the Knysna race that was shortened from 100km to 80km. Did it in 2hours23min, Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how far that's off a sub 3 Argus? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted October 7, 2013 Share ALL THE HEAVY HITTERS WILL come on now and say "its easy,its nothing",, personally i think if you clock a sub 3 you earn bragging rights IMHO Only Epic hero's have bragging rights... and TDF, Giro or that Spanish thing finishers... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted October 7, 2013 Share Only Epic hero's have bragging rights... and TDF, Giro or that Spanish thing finishers... SEE ALL THE HEAVIES I WAS TALKING ABOUT , I KNEW THEY WOULD COME THE BLACK TAR LOVERS,LIKE HONEY TO A BEE Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li Mu Bai Posted October 7, 2013 Share Weather is more important than staring group.Dont expect your 94.7 sub 3 to be anything close to an Argus sub 3argus is longer and subject to hectic wind or heat.You have to average 37km/h at Argus or you can forget about it - easier said than done. DIPSLICK and Chopper Jr 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted October 7, 2013 Share WHAAAT No way! Every man and his dog would be able to do a Sub-3 My 20min w/kg is around 3.8. And I have gone under 3. But like most guys have said........Start group and weather will be your main challenges..... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted October 7, 2013 Share My 20min w/kg is around 3.8.And I have gone under 3. But like most guys have said........Start group and weather will be your main challenges.....Quite a bit under....... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted October 7, 2013 Share Quite a bit under.......I WILL ANSWER WITH YOUR NAME,, YOU MY FRIEND ARE DICK,, Dicky DQ 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted October 7, 2013 Share I WISH FOR A SUB 3;00 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokman Posted October 7, 2013 Share Since we asking...last road race I did was the Knysna race that was shortened from 100km to 80km. Did it in 2hours23min, Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how far that's off a sub 3 Argus?A guess. Your three hour bell will ring just as you crest Suikerbossie. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted October 7, 2013 Share A guess. Your three hour bell will ring just as you crest Suikerbossie.OUCH Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokman Posted October 7, 2013 Share OUCHMaybe I should've added that mine normally rings on that hill.In my own experience the just over 30 km/h average in the local races has never been good enough to even get me to a sub 3.30. DIPSLICK 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2087996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartie Posted October 7, 2013 Share Since we asking...last road race I did was the Knysna race that was shortened from 100km to 80km. Did it in 2hours23min, Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how far that's off a sub 3 Argus? Quite a bit. I did the Knysna in 2h09 and the Argus in 3h01. Guessing around 3h20. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2088003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted October 7, 2013 Share Weather is more important than staring group.Dont expect your 94.7 sub 3 to be anything close to an Argus sub 3argus is longer and subject to hectic wind or heat.You have to average 37km/h at Argus or you can forget about it - easier said than done.I disagree, but it's moot point anyway since you can't control the weather. I'm sure of all the sub3 results: 90% have been recorded by riders in groups D or better.5% have been recorded by riders in higher groups who worked well together on the day in perfect weather5% have been recorded by really good riders with *** seedings for whatever reason who basically timetrialled it. in perfect weather. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2088004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted October 7, 2013 Share Like someone stated earlier your starting group is probably the most important. To be honest 3hrs for the Argus is a very avg time. 2h45 is a good time in my books.......and no I have never done that time but it is a good goal Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123760-a-sub-3-argus/page/5/#findComment-2088052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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