Adverse Analytical Finding returned during in-competition test

[Jaco-fiets]

Craig Stone as in 1 stone not 2 stones?

 

Guys this could be Lance racing skelm.....................

[Eldron]

"It is the likely scenario as the substance in question is not a traditional performance enhancer." as opposed to your "farkin cheater" and "Whatever way you look at it - glucocorticosteroids benefit those taking them (illegally benefit). " statements?

 

So with facts I mean facts about things like motive and circumstances because your reaction of wanting to ban for life and defame the guy speaks to that, and not to single reported fact of the positive test.

 

I guess I did over react as first - logic stepped in a day later. I'm just really tired of doping.

 

Motive and circumstance are the emotional side though - not the factual side. It's really down to the TUE now. He has been tested - an illegal substance was found. Unless he comes up with a TUE the motivation and circumstance count for nought. 6 month ban minimum I reckon without a TUE.

 

Read my bit about the dual system - that'll tell you what my opinion is on what the correct punishment should be.

[Red Zone]

Test me and I will probably test positive for absorbing the cortisone in the cream that I use on my kids' eczema, no TUE for that I am sure. Although it is true in my my case, it is a fantastic excuse, even Lance would kick himself for not having come up with it.

[Lefty V]

I guess I did over react as first - logic stepped in a day later. I'm just really tired of doping.

 

Motive and circumstance are the emotional side though - not the factual side. It's really down to the TUE now. He has been tested - an illegal substance was found. Unless he comes up with a TUE the motivation and circumstance count for nought. 6 month ban minimum I reckon without a TUE.

 

Read my bit about the dual system - that'll tell you what my opinion is on what the correct punishment should be.

 

At least we can agree on the "tired of doping" bit.

 

Hey, this Chris Stone person might share that feeling with us for all we know

[Sworks20]

I'm pretty sure he won't have a TUE.If every time a GP prescibed that ,or flu medication to someone that was going to be doing a race in the near future,imagine the chaos if everyone then applied for a TUE.This is what might happen in future if he gets nailed.

 

There is a valid TUE. All info and documentation being handed over at hearing.

[DJR]

There is a valid TUE. All info and documentation being handed over at hearing.

 

You sure a TUE can be handed over on a FRI? This is SA after all, and nothing works here on a FRI. Perhaps it's got to be done on a TUE to work?

Edited October 25, 2013 by DJR

[SwissVan]

There is a valid TUE. All info and documentation being handed over at hearing.

 

Interesting

 

Was the TUE obtained before the + test?

 

 

I wonder which one he was taking, logic says pilletjies.

 

According to the UCI:

 

You must complete a full TUE application if you take glucocorticosteroids by any of the following systemic routes:

• Orally – through the mouth, usually in the form of pills or tablets
  
• Intravenous injection – injected into a vein
  
• Intramuscular injection – injected straight into a muscle
  
• Rectally – into the rectum usually in the form of a suppository or rectal application of a cream.
  

[stringbean]

What I don't understand then is why would CSA make a report public of a failed drug test if a TUE exists?That is very damaging to a rider and they of all people are the FIRST to know about a TUE.Drugfreesport SA would also be aware that the TUE exists.I believe they must of applied for a retroactive or emergency TUE as is allowed.

[Sworks20]

The whole series of events will be out after the hearing and thats all there is for now to be said but many of you will need to say sorry.

[urbanroyal]

When is the hearing ?

[stringbean]

I also think this is just a case of honest mistake.I really think CSA should NOT go public until after a hearing.No matter what happens at the hearing,damage has been done and I don't see CSA saying sorry or making any other public statement.

[Sworks20]

The hearing should be next week.

[dillon]

csa are just showing you all they do do something with your licence fees, not just pay salaries party expenses

[Baaisikilist]

When is the hearing ?

 

Those things can really get dragged out... And if you read CSA's rules, once they've notified you of your adverse analytical finding, they reserve the right to issue a press release. They assume everybody knows the way the procedure works, so don't expect them to inform you of said press release prior to it being issued. Other than getting a chance to notify your family before they see it in the press, it doesn't really matter too much if you're ultimately found guilty, but if he does have a TUE or isn't found guilty of any wrong doing, the whole immediate press release to blacken your name before a hearing is a lot of BS. Will they issue any form of public apology if he's clean as quickly. I think not.

[TALUS]

I have often wondered about this releasing of names early: an underaged (alleged) murderer's name wont be released before being found guilty - what will happen with a 15y old with a positive A -sample?

 

[Danger Dassie]

csa are just showing you all they do do something with your licence fees, not just pay salaries party expenses

 

CSA don't do the test, nor do they facilitate the process. SAIDS do, and if there's a positive in the test, they inform the relevant sporting federation. In this case, CSA. The paperwork is in triplicate, one for SAIDS, the sporting federation, the athlete and fourth with details blanked out other than the sample serial numbers. That accompanies the samples that go to the lab.