scuzzy Posted December 10, 2013 Share So perhaps Specialized did not follow the right channels, but imagine that Fuji could legally hold them responsible for not acting on the trademark infringement. Fuji looking like the heroes now. At least Cafe Roubaix got some free advertising out of this. And everybody can now go and buy a Fuji bike, since they're the heroes and Specialized the bullies. Cause we just like having a Fuji under us just to support the brand. #prdonotmakegoodorbadbikes Johnstoneighty6, Cellar and Fujiman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted December 10, 2013 Share Neal Rogers @nealrogers17mUpdate on Specialized/Roubaix story, by @stevefroth at @BicycleRetailer: ASI says Calgary shop can use Roubaix name http://www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2013/12/09/asi-says-calgary-bike-shop-can-use-roubaix-name#.UqanBYv9TJw.twitter… and that's how it should've been: a very level-headed approach. Will be interesting to see the terms of licencing offered to Mr Cafe Roubaix. I mean, does he accept whatever they offer so he doesnt end up the stodgy moron, or will the licencing agreement be as reasonable as that press release by ASI. But yasis Spesh. jy't lekker opgefok... I am not SomeBloke, RockCoach and Cellar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzy Posted December 10, 2013 Share I see a new Paris-Roubaix route has been announced... I thought they might do like a Montreal - Roubaix UCI tour in support of the bike shop owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am not SomeBloke Posted December 10, 2013 Share and that's how it should've been: a very level-headed approach. Will be interesting to see the terms of licencing offered to Mr Cafe Roubaix. I mean, does he accept whatever they offer so he doesnt end up the stodgy moron, or will the licencing agreement be as reasonable as that press release by ASI. But yasis Spesh. jy't lekker opgefok... They'll probably go the $1 licensing route. If they'd had this approach from the start they would have generated brand goodwill whilst covering themselves legally. Whoever's running their PR should be fired. dev null 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igknot Posted December 10, 2013 Share I see a new Paris-Roubaix route has been announced... I sure hope the organiser has cleared the route with Spaz before releasing it. A simple google search would have made it clear that the naming rights lies somewhere in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzzy Posted December 10, 2013 Share I sure hope the organiser has cleared the route with Spaz before releasing it. A simple google search would have made it clear that the naming rights lies somewhere in the states. Is Roubaix not in France though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Specialized holds the trademark for Roubaix in Canada; it has since 2007 when its application was approved. Three separate intellectual property lawyers contacted by VeloNews have stated unequivocally that Specialized’s trademark is valid. It is legitimate. It may feel wrong, but it’s the law. kevin vermaak.. you next buddy. Epic. clearly logic is not part of the equation when handing out patents. This unbridled greed at play here. Ppl should rightly vote with their wallets. This here is the problem. Without any concept of intellectual property law you take a position that is clearly nonsense. For a start, this has nothing to do with patents, it is a Trademark dispute. What is not in dispute is that Spez applied for and was approved to register the Roubaix trademark in Canada in 2007. Anybody who had a problem with it, had the opportunity to object then. Specialized does not hold the trademark for Epic in South Africa. So no, they cannot take action against Kevin Vermaak and no one in his right mind would suggest that. However, I suggest you start a bike brand called Absa Cape Epic and see how long it takes before you get a strongly worded letter from KV's lawyers. Wyatt Earp and GLuvsMtb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted December 10, 2013 Share Ppl should rightly vote with their wallets. I did exactly that ,that's why I bought the Venge. mikkelz and MuddyMike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted December 10, 2013 Share I understand that there is no such thing as "International Trademark", only the Madrid protocol http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/law/madrid/madridfaqs.jsp But then I'm not a lawyer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowashell Posted December 10, 2013 Share So there is no problem if Fuji owns the rights to the name, as long as Specialized doesn't? I think I see double standards being applied here, just because Specialized created a PR booby. I ride a Fuji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Posted December 10, 2013 Share So there is no problem if Fuji owns the rights to the name, as long as Specialized doesn't? I think I see double standards being applied here, just because Specialized created a PR booby. No. Read the story. ASI who own Fuji, and the Roubaix TM, let Specialised use the Roubaix name under a license agreement. It seems like Specialised overstepped the boundaries of that license agreement in going after this bike shop. And there's no double standard, as ASI didn't use the bully tactics that Specialised did. Edited December 10, 2013 by Cellar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted December 10, 2013 Share Specialized does not hold the trademark for Epic in South Africa. So no, they cannot take action against Kevin Vermaak and no one in his right mind would suggest that. However, I suggest you start a bike brand called Absa Cape Epic and see how long it takes before you get a strongly worded letter from KV's lawyers. KV is so anal about the brand that you are not even allowed to use it to brand your own Epic kit with their logo. It the SA context you may point to the Epic Bike Shop in Plumstead and ask about this issue. They have been operating under that name for much longer than the existence of the Cape Epic and have a very strong case should they ever get a nasty letter to this effect. BC bike race gave us permission to brand our kit for this years race with the only provision that we send them a pic of us wearing the kit on a local trail. I prefer the Canadian approach. Edited December 10, 2013 by GLuvsMtb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockCoach Posted December 10, 2013 Share No. Read the story. ASI who own Fuji, and the Roubaix TM, let Specialised use the Roubaix name under a license agreement. It seems like Specialised overstepped the boundaries of that license agreement in going after this bike shop. Not sure of the details but I read somewhere that Spesh let Fuji use one of their suspension designs as part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted December 10, 2013 Share This here is the problem. Without any concept of intellectual property law you take a position that is clearly nonsense. For a start, this has nothing to do with patents, it is a Trademark dispute. What is not in dispute is that Spez applied for and was approved to register the Roubaix trademark in Canada in 2007. Anybody who had a problem with it, had the opportunity to object then. Specialized does not hold the trademark for Epic in South Africa. So no, they cannot take action against Kevin Vermaak and no one in his right mind would suggest that. However, I suggest you start a bike brand called Absa Cape Epic and see how long it takes before you get a strongly worded letter from KV's lawyers. tongue in cheek. unbunch a bit and maybe you'll spot the sarcasm in my statement about the epic. Talk about coming to nonsense conclusions. Much irony there old chap. But feel free to replace patent with trademark. It's still lacking logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted December 10, 2013 Share But wait isn't Fuji bikes involved in a dispute with Fuji cameras? Plus there's some shepherd on mount Fuji suing them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted December 10, 2013 Share But wait isn't Fuji bikes involved in a dispute with Fuji cameras? Plus there's some shepherd on mount Fuji suing them both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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