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[dirtypot]

36 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

Is that a typo, 1.2 km's...no good for an engine that. 

Each way... 

And I take the scenic route home via Chapmans Peak, up and down ???? which adds a few extra kilometers 

[sawystertrance]

16 hours ago, ChristiaanSt said:

What is this bandwagon I am being discussed in?

I have downloaded your chin bar file and looking at it now to line it up and print it. Will let you know once done

Hi Christiaan,

Nice to hear from you. Just before you do it, how much do you think it will be? It may be too expensive for you to do and also needs to be flexible so I don't know if your plastic will be suitable. My apologies - I should have been clearer when mentioning it. 

[Andymann]

17 hours ago, Mongooser said:

Where do you guys go to get a printout on a bikes previous owner or anything.

I went to traffic and police station and both said to go to the other one.

  Trying to get the papers for my 03 kx125 to get it street legal.

I think you're going to hit a brick wall hey - I'm talking Yamaha now, but I'm pretty sure it will be the same for the others.  When a model is introduced to Natis it's either flagged as For Road Use, or Not for Road Use.  So regardless of what papers you eventually get, the moment you take the bike for a Roadworthy and he inputs the model code (YZ125B02 would be the YZ Natis code) it will be flagged for non-roadworthy purposes.

Now I do know that KDX200's are flagged for Road use so you would be able to get one of them Roadworthy, and we also introduced a "New" model code for a YZ250 when we had to register two bikes for Jade and Louwrens to use in Europe, which was for road use, but I'm pretty sure they changed that back.

This is also why if anyone here buys one of the older single cylinder carb-bikes like the KLR650, XR600, TW200, DT175, DR400 make sure they are still licensed - if they are up to date they cannot be taken off the system, but if they need to be re-introduced to NATIS, all those model codes have been flagged now for non-road use.

[Andymann]

I have attached a copy of an old Natis Certificate - how it used to work (and I'm sure still does) is that official importers are linked to the NATIS system.  For every bike or ATV they sell, they register the VIN and engine as well as Model Code on NATIS, and NATIS then issues this document (we used to joke and call them Birth Certificates).  The new owner then took this certificate to the Licensing department and with it, he or she got the Ownership papers and put the vehicle in their name.

Now in the case of most off-road, Enduro or Track bikes, the owners never needed papers, so they didn't bother to go to the Licensing department, so the NATIS system then archived that VIN number.

If you are really lucky and the bike has never been registered you can apply to unarchive the NATIS and then you can register as a new bike - which is why a lot of Track Bikes from 5 years ago are 2021 models!

But again, if that model code or vehicle register number has been loaded as "Non Road use" while you could get the bike legal to ride on the road, you will never be able to license it.

I know it's not ideal, because you already own the KX, but if you absolutely want a 2-stroke road legal bike and are a Kawasaki fan, look for one of the Road-legal KDX200's.  They have lighting coils, so you won't have to stress about riding at night, have speedometers, and also oil pumps, so you don't have to worry about pre-mix.

Most important, they also have ignition and steering locks fitted so you can actually leave them parked somewhere.

 

 

 

 

NATIS -01.doc

[Andymann]

....and that's how you know if a KDX200 will be registered on NATIS as For Road use - that's where the passenger footpegs go - so that series of VIN number will be able to be licensed.

[Mongooser]

2 hours ago, Andymann said:

I have attached a copy of an old Natis Certificate - how it used to work (and I'm sure still does) is that official importers are linked to the NATIS system.  For every bike or ATV they sell, they register the VIN and engine as well as Model Code on NATIS, and NATIS then issues this document (we used to joke and call them Birth Certificates).  The new owner then took this certificate to the Licensing department and with it, he or she got the Ownership papers and put the vehicle in their name.

Now in the case of most off-road, Enduro or Track bikes, the owners never needed papers, so they didn't bother to go to the Licensing department, so the NATIS system then archived that VIN number.

If you are really lucky and the bike has never been registered you can apply to unarchive the NATIS and then you can register as a new bike - which is why a lot of Track Bikes from 5 years ago are 2021 models!

But again, if that model code or vehicle register number has been loaded as "Non Road use" while you could get the bike legal to ride on the road, you will never be able to license it.

I know it's not ideal, because you already own the KX, but if you absolutely want a 2-stroke road legal bike and are a Kawasaki fan, look for one of the Road-legal KDX200's.  They have lighting coils, so you won't have to stress about riding at night, have speedometers, and also oil pumps, so you don't have to worry about pre-mix.

Most important, they also have ignition and steering locks fitted so you can actually leave them parked somewhere.

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for all the info.  Alot more useful than any government site.

I'll get the bike to saps and see whats up and go from there.

Otherwise a kdx200 could be perfect.

[Hairy]

 

He should have worn a jacket though .... he looks Frozen!

[sawystertrance]

It was finally time to replace my trusty Anakee 3s. Got these last week and I'm planning a Cedarberg trip soon to see how they go. I hope to have some photos to show soon. 

[Scalpel]

There is a beaut of a Suzuki RMX250 on FB market place for sale as well as a fully road legal Honda CRM250.

[Mongooser]

30 minutes ago, Scalpel said:

There is a beaut of a Suzuki RMX250 on FB market place for sale as well as a fully road legal Honda CRM250.

I quite like the old crm250s. Any chance you have link?

[Scalpel]

Cant send link. Sold by Dougie Auld. In Bethlehem Free State.

[Mongooser]

56 minutes ago, Scalpel said:

Cant send link. Sold by Dougie Auld. In Bethlehem Free State.

Found the add with the name thanks. I'll have to chat to him..  it looks really clean

[Andrew_Smith]

[dirtypot]

20 hours ago, Mongooser said:

I quite like the old crm250s. 

A buddy used to have one of these.  Really cool little bikes.  Quite tame compared to a 250 MX bike of the same era, but that makes them a hell of a lot more reliable.  

[sawystertrance]

Just got back after an overnighter to cedarberg. Going to try to post some photos here but size may be a problem.

Edited October 1, 2021 by sawystertrance
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[G0ku]

CBR 300