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Aha so when one day (I know this will NEVER happen to you) a few of these nice gentleman walks into your house armed with their unlicensed firearms I suppose you first gonna sit down and have coffee with them before they proceed to rape your wife and daughters and drown you son in a bathtub full of boiling water ?

 

You beat me to post this.

 

Malcolm did the right thing at the time. Nobody will say differently. We all have our own opinions and nothing is goinfg to change that.

 

Many here are quick to add things to the scenario like guys hiding in the bushes behind you etc.

 

Let's take this scenario, and forget about Malcolm, and let's escalate the level of violence and add the following:

 

Rider riding with his girlfriend or wife. Robbery takes place and the perps decide to sexually molest or rape her. Now this actually did happen to the brother and sister in kempton park 2 years ago, so this is a reality and has happened.

 

What would your comments be now on this situation?

 

There may come a time in your life where you will be faced with escalated violence and you may have to fight for your life. My whole puprose of posting was to make you all aware that you can control the outcome of a violent attack. yes you will get away with not been harmed most of the time. but that 1 time...

 

Bulletproof vest on. Fire away...

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Aha so when one day (I know this will NEVER happen to you) a few of these nice gentleman walks into your house armed with their unlicensed firearms I suppose you first gonna sit down and have coffee with them before they proceed to rape your wife and daughters and drown you son in a bathtub full of boiling water ?

If that's the reality you live in, then it's time to move.

 

Who has a kettle big enough to fill a bathtub of boiling water? Or are we talking missonary version #14 potjie pot over a fire?

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If hard work was the pre-requisite to getting a job I know of a couple of people who shouldn't be unemployed right now.

 

Any way, I just created a scenario to carry my point. Fact is, you don't know what other people are going through, putting a cap between there eyes isn't a solution to anything. In a sick way, theft can be noble, depending on your perspective.... Think robben Hood.... Lol, how's that for funny ?

 

:clap: ok sorry . Thieves should not have any rights and if possible should be shot between the eyes . Bullet are not cheap these days and I hate to see them wasted .

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Reckon he could've used this:

 

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--fcaEWxD_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/xslj8eabejmu4kaibm0j.gif

 

Modern version

 

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If that's the reality you live in, then it's time to move.

 

Who has a kettle big enough to fill a bathtub of boiling water? Or are we talking missonary version #14 potjie pot over a fire?

 

Shebeen did you give your brain cell to somebody else for the day or are you just trying to say something . A good friend of mine was shot dead by these bastards and then while his wife watched they filled the bath tub with hot water (WDF boils a kettle to fill a tub ) and drowned her 11 year old son in it . So please why don't you step out of your little bubble .

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when i looked at the clip, my first thought is PK him when gun and handle bar was in hand easy :eek: then immediately after that i thought, IF I DONE THAT I WOULD BE DEAD when the other 2 came running,,,,

i repeat what i say THAT MAN WENT HOME TO HIS FAMILY

 

as rouxtjie saYs END VAN PRENT

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You beat me to post this.

 

Malcolm did the right thing at the time. Nobody will say differently. We all have our own opinions and nothing is goinfg to change that.

 

Many here are quick to add things to the scenario like guys hiding in the bushes behind you etc.

 

Let's take this scenario, and forget about Malcolm, and let's escalate the level of violence and add the following:

 

Rider riding with his girlfriend or wife. Robbery takes place and the perps decide to sexually molest or rape her. Now this actually did happen to the brother and sister in kempton park 2 years ago, so this is a reality and has happened.

 

What would your comments be now on this situation?

 

There may come a time in your life where you will be faced with escalated violence and you may have to fight for your life. My whole puprose of posting was to make you all aware that you can control the outcome of a violent attack. yes you will get away with not been harmed most of the time. but that 1 time...

 

Bulletproof vest on. Fire away...

 

FFS.

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if that is the case, then it was naive not to state it upfront. What reaction did you expect to your first Rambo-type post? Your ascertion that you could have just shot these three guys and walked away without being charged probably doesn't come with a 200% guarantee either.

 

beyond that, next weekend i'm off to a bachelors that involves mountain biking then shooting AK47s in a range.

Will report back about the possible combinations.

 

There are many here who are quick to judge, without knowing what the posters background is. But hey this is the HUB and anything goes. One does not post a CV upfront when posting.

 

I just sigh when people see the self defence requirements as a grey area. It is actually cut and dried. In this instance use of deadly force would be justified on the armed attacker. I bet someone will differ, and that is why they don't carry.

 

Enjoy the shoot. The AK47 is a remarkable weapon and shoots pretty nicely. Just remenber one day on the range firing a few rounds don't make you competent to deal with a situation.

 

and remember firearms and alchohol do not go well together.

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There are many here who are quick to judge, without knowing what the posters background is. But hey this is the HUB and anything goes. One does not post a CV upfront when posting.

 

I just sigh when people see the self defence requirements as a grey area. It is actually cut and dried. In this instance use of deadly force would be justified on the armed attacker. I bet someone will differ, and that is why they don't carry.

 

Enjoy the shoot. The AK47 is a remarkable weapon and shoots pretty nicely. Just remenber one day on the range firing a few rounds don't make you competent to deal with a situation.

 

and remember firearms and alchohol do not go well together.

 

Something you have been guilty of since the very first post.

 

We are debating Malcolm's situation and what happens on the trails. You came here to act windgat and to name drop (poor Nel has met more people than he knows lately) and to drop innuendo and suggestion. Your CV will not change my views.

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What would you do?????

 

It is a reality. It happened up here 2 years ago.

 

Wake up to what is going on in this country. Life gets taken away on an impulse.

So why tender for it....why not play the best odds....the examples you mention are far less than jackings where somebody just hands the goods over....if they fought back, who knows how many of them will still be here. why do you keep on throwing your training background in the mix. A far better response for someone with these types of skills and training would be no response at all tbh. Its quite irresponsible posting what could be have been done to prevent this since someone reading this, thinking that they can now go defend themselves, totally out of breath against 3 drugged up criminals with nothing to loose, because they have read your "defend yourself 101" post.

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So why tender for it....why not play the best odds....the examples you mention are far less than jackings where somebody just hands the goods over....if they fought back, who knows how many of them will still be here. why do you keep on throwing your training background in the mix. A far better response for someone with these types of skills and training would be no response at all tbh. Its quite irresponsible posting what could be have been done to prevent this since someone reading this, thinking that they can now go defend themselves, totally out of breath against 3 drugged up criminals with nothing to loose, because they have read your "defend yourself 101" post.

 

True Story. My only resistance would be a warm wet patch between my legs!

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I'm not one much for motivational sayings, but this one seems to apply when it comes to fight, flight or surrender:

 

"If you think you can or you can't, you are most likely right".

 

People must act within their characters, experience & perceptions and one size doesnt fit all.

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There are many here who are quick to judge, without knowing what the posters background is. But hey this is the HUB and anything goes. One does not post a CV upfront when posting.

 

I just sigh when people see the self defence requirements as a grey area. I

 

If I may ask, what do you mean by this or what are you referring to ?

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