BrandonF_ Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Now I got you curious and thinking what in the world is this all about.... Well, here's my dilemma. Im a keen one day event racer, 55-85km events and usually finish in the top 10-15%. I can do better if it wasn't for this little issue I cant seem to resolve. I just cannot for the life of me stick to the franatic pace of the start upfront, especially starts with a longish flat section, or even an immediate climb. My first 15km in a race feels like death row and the period my mind plays the most tricks on me, "you are unprepared", "okes behind you gonna catch up and drop you like fly" "not gonna be a great day in the saddle" and so it goes on... After about 15km or so I will start reeling guys in as I've settled into a rhythm and as I said finish in a fairly good position top 10 or 15 Now my question, is this just my fate, I have a diesel engine and will have to live with it or can I become a 2l Turbo at the ripe old age of 35years? Maybe I started cycling too late, only 3years ago? I dont know, any constructive comments will be appreciate!! ThxBrandon
V12man Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Train like you want to race..... add in going HARD from cold. And warm up properly - even if you cool down in the chute. PhilipV and nonky 2
DJR Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) A really thorough warmup beforehand could change things dramatically. High cadence, light force warmup of just 20 minutes shortly before. Include a few short very high intensity sprints to wake up the "fast guy within". You should be sweating lightly or you are not doing enough. Other than that, high intensity interval training twice a week van also increase your tolerance for that crazy race start pace. (B.t.w. I'm a high mileage diesel and I have always been surprised at how quickly I can become "fast" (ha ha) with just 2 months worth of proper intervals.) Edited June 8, 2014 by DJR Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
popcorn_skollie Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 I can relate. I'm nowhere near your level of fitness, or that interested in competitive cycling. But i too suffer from delayed turbos. I refer to it as 'my second wind'. For my first race i entered the 22km argus challenge i think it was. You know. baby steps. It went ok and and i finished somewhere in the middle. But when i was done i felt very dissatisfied. I got my second wind just before the end of the race. I felt like i was only realy ready to ride after i had completed.
Matchstix Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 The trick is to install a two turbos one to handle the initial pull away and one for the higher revs. Don't forget the waste gate other wise you might have problems. Will also need to upgrade you fuel management system and piston rods. urbanroyal, rouxtjie, BarHugger and 2 others 5
BrandonF_ Posted June 9, 2014 Author Posted June 9, 2014 Thx for the advice guys, will find a hill in Durbanville area and klap intervals twice a week from the start till I drop dead!
rouxtjie Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Thx for the advice guys, will find a hill in Durbanville area and klap intervals twice a week from the start till I drop dead!Best advice is from matchstix...nail hammer head. BarHugger 1
Carmichael Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Brandon take odendal rd next to klara anna, and do 1:30 intervals up there with 1 min rest inbetween Wannabe 1
Metzet Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 its not how you start, its how you finish.. like the other guys said, intervals and a good warm-up should get that sorted
kingalton Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 get a road bike and join a club with super strong riders and try to hang on, this changed how I ride, I joined Velo a few years back and couldn't hold on, now (well not at the moment, been off for a few months) but I can dish out the pain as well - its the surges you need to be able to hold onto, you can simulate this on the IDT or in training on hills, but when you are out there, you have to push so much harder and sometimes so much longer to hold on... your MAX becomes much higher when you have to hold a wheel..
KiNgL Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 i personally prefer the torque of diesel as said above its how you finish you sound pretty strong!
rouxtjie Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 i personally prefer the torque of diesel as said above its how you finish you sound pretty strong!hahaha sure....diesel is strong, diesel is efficient. But unless you twin turbo it....you will never be fast. Nice thing about the human "engine" is you can train it to become a turbo petrol if you want. Also why I liked matchstix post The similarities between the human engine and mechanical engine is actually much closer than we think. Both engines need to move X weight over Y distance. BarHugger 1
BarHugger Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 hahaha sure....diesel is strong, diesel is efficient. But unless you twin turbo it....you will never be fast. Nice thing about the human "engine" is you can train it to become a turbo petrol if you want. Also why I liked matchstix post The similarities between the human engine and mechanical engine is actually much closer than we think. Both engines need to move X weight over Y distance. ......don't forget the BEER truck comparison.......my favourite......:-P Pants Boy and rouxtjie 2
NotSoBigBen Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 hahaha sure....diesel is strong, diesel is efficient. But unless you twin turbo it....you will never be fast. Nice thing about the human "engine" is you can train it to become a turbo petrol if you want. Also why I liked matchstix post The similarities between the human engine and mechanical engine is actually much closer than we think. Both engines need to move X weight over Y distance. Or in my case XXL weight over Y distance rouxtjie and BarHugger 2
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