Retail misrepresentation of prices

[JGR]

I did not complain about their rant. I ranted about people not taking responsibility for themselves.

If you cannot see that then it makes sense why you need other people to warn you about advertising.

 

When you said we cannot moan about rants in the rant section you set a president about hypocrisy, which you then did in your next post.

 

He was called Cpt Princple because he could not substantiate a statement he made and then fell back on the "but its the principle of the matter" statement. Much like you did after you openly said you have insider knowledge of insurers blatantly screwing clients over. These statements you make tarnish industries that try their best to run their businesses, and make a living for themselves.

 

So rather go back to trying to poach peoples staff which they have invested in simply so that you can make a quick placement buck.

 

"I have no issue with people ranting"- You clearly have an issue with my rant, hypocrite!

Everyday people come here and moan about how they are being screwed over. NOT once has anybody taken responsibility for their own action.

 

 

 

Boohoo banks charge me interest!! Well then don’t buy stuff you cannot afford on credit!

 

Boohoo cell company this and that don’t give me what I want!! Well change, or stop moaning!

 

Boohoo bike shop 1 charges more than bike shop 2. Well take your money elsewhere.

 

Boohoo insurance company X won’t pay my claim even though I excluded said cover to save a buck.

 

Boohoo I must pay R1000 for a special seat clamp. Well when you bought areo bike X to show off to your friends you should have thought of that. Here you rant about people ranting and what they should do, you go further to blame them (also unsubstantiated btw). I never said you could not moan, by all means moan. You seem to be good at it but thanks for acknowledging it was a rant. Please show me where I said you couldn't moan? I asked you a question how that made sense. Once again you misquote - all I said and reconfirmed with you in your little PM to me was it was info that was passed on to me - whether true or not. I never said an insurer is screwing people over, in fact if you bothered to read I said I agree that companies don't go out to screw people but also noted that it does happen. You talk of tarnishing industries but then try do they same to mine? Who do you think it is that pay us to get these people? The same people you are trying to defend. Since you already know everything you would obviously know that people approach us to find them new jobs or is it your assumption that every staff member gets invested in and should stay their who lives at one company?

Edited June 26, 2014 by JGR

[Patchelicious]

Hahahaha

[Uni]

that went south quickly.

Point is, as the consumer - you're not always right but when you are - you should go and cry / rant / complain / to make the supplier and get your fair share. Thing is, they rely on complacency to make that extra on the side, and if it's not the supplier themselves it's their staff.

 

it takes people complaining to highlight things like price fixing etc ... bitching that shop A sells product for X more than shop B is silly - they have a right to do that, and you have a right to choose where you want to buy. However, if they say R100 on the shelf and you go pay and get charged R110 - that's different.

 

my OH will tell you i'm a sucker for "Special" stickers - buy 3 for the price of 2 type things - only when i end up throwing stuff out do i realise the school fees involved.

[JGR]

Hahahaha

Thought as much ... OP sorry for derailing the thread

Edited June 26, 2014 by JGR

[JGR]

that went south quickly.

Point is, as the consumer - you're not always right but when you are - you should go and cry / rant / complain / to make the supplier and get your fair share. Thing is, they rely on complacency to make that extra on the side, and if it's not the supplier themselves it's their staff.

 

it takes people complaining to highlight things like price fixing etc ... bitching that shop A sells product for X more than shop B is silly - they have a right to do that, and you have a right to choose where you want to buy. However, if they say R100 on the shelf and you go pay and get charged R110 - that's different.

 

my OH will tell you i'm a sucker for "Special" stickers - buy 3 for the price of 2 type things - only when i end up throwing stuff out do i realise the school fees involved.

Companies need to honour the price displayed on the shelf, even if it was a mistake (in your favour that is).

[cadenceblur]

I did not complain about their rant. I ranted about people not taking responsibility for themselves.

If you cannot see that then it makes sense why you need other people to warn you about advertising.

 

When you said we cannot moan about rants in the rant section you set a president about hypocrisy, which you then did in your next post.

 

He was called Cpt Princple because he could not substantiate a statement he made and then fell back on the "but its the principle of the matter" statement. Much like you did after you openly said you have insider knowledge of insurers blatantly screwing clients over. These statements you make tarnish industries that try their best to run their businesses, and make a living for themselves.

 

So rather go back to trying to poach peoples staff which they have invested in simply so that you can make a quick placement buck.

 

"I have no issue with people ranting"- You clearly have an issue with my rant, hypocrite!

could not substantiate what exactly? Also, leave your name calling to the kindergarten playground.

[marko35s]

i stopped there, woman and spending cannot be used as valid point in any discussion

 

 

 

dips hauls

You sir are a very brave man.

[JGR]

could not substantiate what exactly? Also, leave your name calling to the kindergarten playground.

When intellectual debate and reason dry up ... insults and naming calling arrive

[DIPSLICK]

You sir are a very brave man.

NAAAHHHH NOT REALLY THE WOMAN ARE OUT SHOPPING NOT READING :whistling:

[Dubber]

It's really quite simple, and NOT about the price being paid, but don't hoodwink ignorant people into thinking that they are getting a better deal than they actually are!

 

Dude - firstly, I'm on your side here. I don't agree with it.

 

That said, it is just another form of advertising. Almost all advertisements lie oversell in some form or another. When last did you buy a burger that actually looks like the one advertised? Or did the nose spray you bought really prevent you from getting a cold for xx weeks? Or do you really expect that whey protein to give you 70% more muscle?

 

The price change thing is annoying. But in my opinion, adverts misrepresenting products is far worse. Yet nobody complains about these?

[Mr X]

Dude - firstly, I'm on your side here. I don't agree with it.

 

That said, it is just another form of advertising. Almost all advertisements lie oversell in some form or another. When last did you buy a burger that actually looks like the one advertised? Or did the nose spray you bought really prevent you from getting a cold for xx weeks? Or do you really expect that whey protein to give you 70% more muscle?

 

The price change thing is annoying. But in my opinion, adverts misrepresenting products is far worse. Yet nobody complains about these?

 

I have never encountered any of these examples you mention, these obvious misrepresentations you mention are not common. However,

Retail misrepresentation of prices

 

are very common.

 

The reason they do this is simple, because they can, SA consumers are suckers.

[GrumpyOldGuy]

I think its hard to do with certain lines, say for example Milk, Coffee, Tea, Baked Beans whatever because you buy these things so regularly that you sort of know the price in your head so if someone says Coffee was 50 bucks now 20 bucks save 30 bucks, you know its not true, because you buy it there all the time and its always 30 bucks.

 

You may still say " Haay, I need coffee and 10 bucks is better in my pocket" or you may say its not worth my time for 10 bucks, either way you know where you stand price wise.

 

However, I do agree its a lot harder when you dont know the price because you dont buy it regularly, and here you really rely on the retailers integrity to promote sales items honestly.

Take for example a TV, its difficult and time consuming to go look at all the different models and compare manufacturers and warranty periods and pixels and colour accents and size and so on, so you look at the "suggested retail" of a few you like then look at "Their price on special" and you make a decision. Not ideal I agree but I guess it is what it is, Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

[cadenceblur]

Yes, I agree but in the case where your product is literally price marked at a lower price than the "advertised normal" price?

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Yes, I agree but in the case where your product is literally price marked at a lower price than the "advertised normal" price?

 

Yes I hear you, but I guess they could argue they sell things on a "special" price everyday, and now its just an "extra special" price....I know what you mean but I think its more confusing than misleading, because ultimately you still pay the negotiated price on the sticker at the time, - they offer, you accept, - theres no underhanded business, the "fluff" on the advert getting you to buy is just a sales tool, I honestly think you would be hard pressed to justify this as a breach of the consumer protection act.

[JannievanZyl]

ArchedBackChinOut is quite correct. People tend to refuse more and more to take responsibility for their own actions. No-one put a gun to their heads and forced them to perform the action they so easily complain about.

 

Caveat emptor and all that. But it's OT.

 

On-topic; if you want to complain about a false advertisment use the ASA, not the CPA. They will investigate and rule on the complaint and are pretty good at it.

 

You can log an online complaint here: http://asasa.org.za/Complaint.aspx

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

ArchedBackChinOut is quite correct. People tend to refuse more and more to take responsibility for their own actions. No-one put a gun to their heads and forced them to perform the action they so easily complain about.

 

Caveat emptor and all that. But it's OT.

 

On-topic; if you want to complain about a false advertisment use the ASA, not the CPA. They will investigate and rule on the complaint and are pretty good at it.

 

You can log an online complaint here: http://asasa.org.za/Complaint.aspx

In my industry (finance) it's changing to caveat venditor. Mainly cos the providers give the client so much fluff they don't know what the hell they're buying. It's my job to ensure they know what they're paying for.