Pieterg Posted July 3, 2014 Share What do you say about the "Carbon Chinese Frames" is it FUjong or Hivi frames.I can buy a R1 + 6 Frames and a nice groupset and still have money to keep wifie happy hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ispeed_V Posted July 3, 2014 Share Me, 1987/88, i went to the US for a year and came home with change Went to the US in 1983, exchange rate was almost 1 : 1. In fact I think that our rand was slightly stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted July 3, 2014 Share What do you say about the "Carbon Chinese Frames" is it FUjong or Hivi frames.I can buy a R1 + 6 Frames and a nice groupset and still have money to keep wifie happy heheheheHey if that represents value to you Pieter....go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOOK695 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Wonder what the manufacturing costs are for these frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted July 3, 2014 Share Wonder what the manufacturing costs are for these framesI dont think its fair to compare just manufacturing costs with retail. There are other things to bear in mind R&DBrandingSponserships All of this money spent needs to be recouped when the frame leaves the store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TALUS Posted July 3, 2014 Share It feels to me that Ti represents more bang for buck vs. carbon. That true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted July 3, 2014 Share It feels to me that Ti represents more bang for buck vs. carbon. That true? Very true. And custom steel from Vanilla, Richard Sachs, etc. even starts looking like good value. Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted July 3, 2014 Share It feels to me that Ti represents more bang for buck vs. carbon. That true?Yoh the "material" question is such a slippery slope. Alu is probably on paper the best material ito value proposition. I mean its light enough, its stiff enough and cheap enough. Yet its probably the most undesirable...hahahaha aint that a kick in the head Christie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricochet_rabbit Posted July 3, 2014 Share its about volume of sales. In motorbikes the R&D costs are spread across 10's of thousands of units sold where in bicycles the number of unis sold is probably in the low thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JannievanZyl Posted July 3, 2014 Share forgive me for saying this.......SUCKERED!Not really, the so-called 'book' value matched. That's the point of this thread, right? In another example, I swapped a mint CR250 (less than 20 hours on it, never raced) for a Scott Scale RC. And I was happy..... It's a question of supply and demand; a new craze is sweeping the world and the supply side is taking advantage of it: Charge as much as the market will bear. Business-101, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcjim Posted July 3, 2014 Share What's really annoying is there's no great innovation; it's just shaving a few grams here and there until the product is only just fit for purpose. Thus affecting overall reliability. If there were new ideas such as a new types of gear selection systems etc. the pricing could be understood. New production techniques/materials is a common excuse, but there's been nothing really unique in the cycling world for years. Oufy MTB (Roadie), JGR and Hairy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obree Posted July 3, 2014 Share Its not about the bike..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDonkey Posted July 3, 2014 Share and R4.50 for a Pound!Went on Holiday to the UK when it was R1,50 to the Pound.... I bought rock candy in Blackpool. The beach had rocks instead of sand, and it was raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted July 3, 2014 Share Forgot to mention that you get shoes and a helmet with the Tarmac. That bike stand is SOOOOO sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metzet Posted July 3, 2014 Share Forgot to mention that you get shoes and a helmet with the Tarmac. like a Cajees package deal... they always throw in some extras for "free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usxorf Posted July 3, 2014 Share This isn't a fair comparison, there are way more expensive motorbikes out there. Million dollar harleys. Someone out there is willing to drop a million $$$ on a motorbike, and $20,000 dollars on a spez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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