A dark Africa lays ahead.....load shedding

[Mojoman]

Eskom....a preppers wetdream...

[gummibear]

That’s dangerous talk....

Well....it’s true[emoji22]

[gummibear]

Eskom....a preppers wetdream...

Rather be prepared than have the grid collapse and you are fooked.

 

Just keep a few basics for a few days.

[Mojoman]

Rather be prepared than have the grid collapse and you are fooked.

 

Just keep a few basics for a few days.

I'm vegetarian....I can live off grass...!and eat it too.....

[Capricorn]

So we are covering the cost of employees who are, admitted by Eskom, in excess of what is needed and probably unskilled for their positions too.

There is one driving factor, UNIONS!!!!!

Sounds like the ANC recipe for every disaster........

don't forget government mandate regarding jobs (look at @stellerated's tweet concerning her feud with SABCs board). Unions didn't pull more ppl in, National policy did that. Unions just made it near impossible to offload baggage, unless it was not_black.

Edited December 5, 2018 by Capricorn

[Fruity]

When Eskom load-shedding will stop

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/288702-when-eskom-load-shedding-will-stop.html

[flymango]

When Eskom load-shedding will stop

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/288702-when-eskom-load-shedding-will-stop.html

 

Maybe over the very low demand period during the summer holidays, but once industry fires up in the New Year, it will become critical. And only then does the coal supply challenge come into play. Now we're dealing with failing plant, and it will become harder and harder to achieve the availability factors required to ensure security of supply. Expect load shedding to become more frequent and at higher levels into the early parts of the next decade. It is a very scary situation. 

[Fruity]

Maybe over the very low demand period during the summer holidays, but once industry fires up in the New Year, it will become critical. And only then does the coal supply challenge come into play. Now we're dealing with failing plant, and it will become harder and harder to achieve the availability factors required to ensure security of supply. Expect load shedding to become more frequent and at higher levels into the early parts of the next decade. It is a very scary situation.

Yeh as positive as I would like to be about the situation, it is scary.

[Pieter1]

Eskom....a preppers wetdream...

I follow a group on fb called doomsday prepper south africa, just for ****s and giggles. Those guys are getting ready big time.

[Red Robin]

Haven't done a night ride for ages but at least my lights are getting used now.....

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

So there was an article yesterday where they have stated as fact that the coal is piling up at the mines but that Eskom is just not collecting it.

This is a fabricated situation to push through their tariff hikes.

Eskom even has the audacity to say they need a 90% hike but are taking the hit by only asking for 15%. Thats 15% for the next 4 years BTW.

It is a disgrace!!!!!!

Edited December 7, 2018 by Steven Knoetze (sk27)

[Fruity]

I follow a group on fb called doomsday prepper south africa, just for ****s and giggles. Those guys are getting ready big time.

I used to watch the american Doomsday Preppers a few years ago. Some handy ideas in case a worst case scenario does happen.

[Capricorn]

So there was an article yesterday where they have stated as fact that the coal is piling up at the mines but that Eskom is just not collecting it.

This is a fabricated situation to push through their tariff hikes.

Eskom even has the audacity to say they need a 90% hike but are taking the hit by only asking for 15%. Thats 15% for the next 4 years BTW.

It is a disgrace!!!!!!

well, the production numbers and causes for lost/reduced productivity do not indicate coal shortages as problems. There are a large number of genuine plant faults taking out units left and center, or reducing their outputs.

 

Also, coal laying around requires contracts. Koko locked in 51% black owned suppliers. It wouldn't surprise me if companies that did not meet 51% BBBEE requirements are the ones saying they have coal laying around.

 

The better question  to pose thanjumping to emotionally charged, factually inaccurate conclusions, is:

* why aren't the existing contracted coal suppliers not supplying sufficient coal at the correct quality level (export market income is a huge factor here btw). If they are not meeting contractual requirements, why are they being humored?

* are there transport issues getting coal from the mines to the stations?

* What in the operating targets and maintenance schedules are causing units to fall over across the board?

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

well, the production numbers and causes for lost/reduced productivity do not indicate coal shortages as problems. There are a large number of genuine plant faults taking out units left and center, or reducing their outputs.

 

Also, coal laying around requires contracts. Koko locked in 51% black owned suppliers. It wouldn't surprise me if companies that did not meet 51% BBBEE requirements are the ones saying they have coal laying around.

 

The better question  to pose thanjumping to emotionally charged, factually inaccurate conclusions, is:

* why aren't the existing contracted coal suppliers not supplying sufficient coal at the correct quality level (export market income is a huge factor here btw). If they are not meeting contractual requirements, why are they being humored?

* are there transport issues getting coal from the mines to the stations?

* What in the operating targets and maintenance schedules are causing units to fall over across the board?

 

I hear you, there are plenty of technicalities but I think the basic issues come down to corruption and politics. The mines were sold off to these BEE entities by the multi-nationals when they saw the tide turning, so you have mines running at lower capacity producing lower standard coal.

The money is either stolen or used in a way to enrich a few.

Then the politics is that they got rid of skilled white employees and have employed too many staff of which many are incompetent hence the units failing.

 

The same white staff were used to design and build power stations in India, for example, at a fraction of the cost of our new Madupi and Kusile stations and also much quicker as there are no union shenanigans. These same Indian power stations import coal from RSA........

 

Its just a big ass mess that needs a reset button to be hit.......

[Capricorn]

I hear you, there are plenty of technicalities but I think the basic issues come down to corruption and politics. The mines were sold off to these BEE entities by the multi-nationals when they saw the tide turning, so you have mines running at lower capacity producing lower standard coal.

The money is either stolen or used in a way to enrich a few.

Then the politics is that they got rid of skilled white employees and have employed too many staff of which many are incompetent hence the units failing.

 

The same white staff were used to design and build power stations in India, for example, at a fraction of the cost of our new Madupi and Kusile stations and also much quicker as there are no union shenanigans. These same Indian power stations import coal from RSA........

 

Its just a big ass mess that needs a reset button to be hit.......

 

unfortunately, the masses don't grasp the full extent and impact of the corruption, and even of the way BBBEE had been implemented. Quality of service was the last thing on anyone's mind, effectively turning BBBEE into a national level getrichquick scheme.

And internal promotions was another extension of that scheme it seems. I'm pretty damn sure western cape stations are in violation of the demographic compliance requirements of gender equity. it wouldn't have been that big a problem (unless you are a non-black female) if quality was a high priority. But the ensuing incompetence at managerial level translated down fast and hard. The lack of substantive and sustainable planning beggars belief. the lack of quality is pretty institutionalized. the recovery is going to take time, but requires consistency of leadership vision and quality standards. just too much politicking the moment for either of those to survive, much less flourish and nourish the rest of the organization.

 

Yet, there are key individuals, who despite the crap they quagmired in, still perform to a level that carries everyone else. Let's not forget about those individuals. Let's not rob them of the motivation to keep going, by painting them with the same brush.

Edited December 7, 2018 by Capricorn

[Capricorn]

This is a pretty focussed assessment by a money man. glad to know that my two previous posts were not too far off the pressure points. Glad and sad, because the reality is, the knife has to cut deep to get to the rot(root) of the problem.

 

Eskom: what's the plan?

Edited December 9, 2018 by Capricorn