RocknRolla Posted March 26, 2015 Share Average Joe That was before "treatment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90 Inch Posted March 26, 2015 Share I'm pretty sure i remember them saying it applies backwards as well...No they were not able to apply it retrospectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted March 26, 2015 Share No they were not able to apply it retrospectively. Why not? Surely its their race they can make it what they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90 Inch Posted March 26, 2015 Share They need to operate within UCI rules. UCI feel that the 2 year suspension is the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted March 26, 2015 Share Raced against Joe at Clover Tour - he came 2nd overall in Vets. Glad to see they finally testing the vets. gtr1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted March 26, 2015 Share They need to operate within UCI rules. UCI feel that the 2 year suspension is the punishment. They don't though, you cannot compete at the epic if you have tested positive. You will not be able to enter even if you have served the ban. I just thought their rule would go back as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 26, 2015 Share Raced against Joe at Clover Tour - he came 2nd overall in Vets. Glad to see they finally testing the vets.Hope they tested you for haemotoxins! rattlesnake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted March 26, 2015 Share I'm pretty sure i remember them saying it applies backwards as well... 2012 Uh uh http://www.cape-epic.com/news/409/ "Says Kevin Vermaak, founder of the race: “As of 1 January 2013, any athlete (professional or amateur) caught using performance enhancing substances, whether at another event or out of competition, will be banned for life from participating in the Absa Cape Epic. Not only will the person not be allowed to participate (as an amateur rider or UCI- licensed elite), but the individual will also be banned from being involved on any level including as a team manager. This is harsher than what is required currently by any federation, but is our considered opinion of what should be enforced even on a wider scale with regards to event participation of convicted dope cheats.”Vermaak continues: “We’ve chosen not to apply this retrospectively because we believe that would be naive. As has been exposed in recent months, cycling has a dark past. Many riders from this previous era have rediscovered the joy of cycling as mountain bikers and participate in the Absa Cape Epic as their expression of riding clean. Previous offenders, who have served their suspension term, may ride future Absa Cape Epics. We want to be part of the new era of cleaner cycling, and therefore only future offenders will receive the lifetime bans." Andrew Steer, the nerd, Long Wheel Base and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted March 26, 2015 Share 2012 Uh uh http://www.cape-epic.com/news/409/ "Says Kevin Vermaak, founder of the race: “As of 1 January 2013, any athlete (professional or amateur) caught using performance enhancing substances, whether at another event or out of competition, will be banned for life from participating in the Absa Cape Epic. Not only will the person not be allowed to participate (as an amateur rider or UCI- licensed elite), but the individual will also be banned from being involved on any level including as a team manager. This is harsher than what is required currently by any federation, but is our considered opinion of what should be enforced even on a wider scale with regards to event participation of convicted dope cheats.”Vermaak continues: “We’ve chosen not to apply this retrospectively because we believe that would be naive. As has been exposed in recent months, cycling has a dark past. Many riders from this previous era have rediscovered the joy of cycling as mountain bikers and participate in the Absa Cape Epic as their expression of riding clean. Previous offenders, who have served their suspension term, may ride future Absa Cape Epics. We want to be part of the new era of cleaner cycling, and therefore only future offenders will receive the lifetime bans." Thanks... I wonder which specific rider they had in mind when they decided this... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 26, 2015 Share Thanks... I wonder which specific rider they had in mind when they decided this... ;-)Careful, you'll get an Emma letter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted March 26, 2015 Share Careful, you'll get an Emma letter! Why, I am always skeptical of big events whether its cycling or otherwise. BUT> What they have done for cycling by introducing this rule is great and a brilliant step in combating doping in pro mtb by making people think twice. I feel anyone caught doping should be banned for life whether its cycling, rowing, swimming or badminton. *Edit They should be banned from all and any professional sport not just their discipline.. Edited March 26, 2015 by the nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted March 26, 2015 Share Raced against Joe at Clover Tour - he came 2nd overall in Vets. Glad to see they finally testing the vets.He came 3rd at Clover. And they have been testing every now and again. I have been tested twice as a vet....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted March 26, 2015 Share He came 3rd at Clover. And they have been testing every now and again. I have been tested twice as a vet.......My bad - looked at one of the stage results instead of GC - still, a podium spot that someone else deserved. Looking at current results vs winning pro times my opinion is that Vets are not tested enough. Period. No finger pointing, but if you do the math, something doesn't add up. Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted March 26, 2015 Share Why, I am always skeptical of big events whether its cycling or otherwise. BUT> What they have done for cycling by introducing this rule is great and a brilliant step in combating doping in pro mtb by making people think twice. I feel anyone caught doping should be banned for life whether its cycling, rowing, swimming or badminton. *Edit They should be banned from all and any professional sport not just their discipline..I agree with you, fully I was just pulling your leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted March 26, 2015 Share I agree with you, fully I was just pulling your leg. I know.. but you can never be too careful ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 26, 2015 Share No it was Russel Lund.Michael was an ex-pro (House of Paints, as they were known then), who got a 4 year ban, served his time for his crime, and did ride/finish the Epic this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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