Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Andrew Steer]

Looking forward to the potatoes! 

Personally, I think there are too many water points at Comrades

Oranges with salt are also pure magic at the right time too 

 

Would be interested to hear people's supplementation plan for the day... I am sure we all do so many different things. 

[Hacc]

Oranges with salt are also pure magic at the right time too 

 

Would be interested to hear people's supplementation plan for the day... I am sure we all do so many different things. 

I will try the orange with salt, something I haven't thought of before. 

I am going to stick with my normal plan:

Eat every hour, I run with race food and I sip on a gel every 20 min. (Can't stomach a whole gel at a time). I run with Hammer gels, but they are just so expensive. I tried PVM's gel - I didn't like that at all. 

I eat potatoes on the route, try not to drink water at every point. I only drink coke when the going gets tough.

 

At the RAC long run I drank a Super M Choc Flavoured milk at 30km - it was the best!!! 

I will have one again half way at Comrades. 

 

I am a bit concerned about cramping - It is a new thing that I am experiencing while running. I see a big hype about Cramp Out. Has anyone used it? One of my clubmates says it tastes disgusting but it works.

[Ferret69]

 

 

I'm going to put it out there and say Kipchoge will break the world record - the lack of race tactics mainly to help with a small chunk of time. The weather conditions I would reckon will be a small bit extra too. He's an absolute animal, and incredibly consistent. Can't see him getting under 2hrs though unless those shoes really are something of an aide.

 

 

Agreed , I think Kipchoge is the only man capable of these times at present.

 

I say he takes a minute off the current record and goes sub2h02 but cant see him going anywhere near 2 flat...

 

I hope I'm wrong as I think like the 4min barrier its very mental and as soon as someone goes close 2h01/2h02 will become the norms on the fast Big City marathons..

[Tubehunter]

Agreed , I think Kipchoge is the only man capable of these times at present.

 

I say he takes a minute off the current record and goes sub2h02 but cant see him going anywhere near 2 flat...

 

I hope I'm wrong as I think like the 4min barrier its very mental and as soon as someone goes close 2h01/2h02 will become the norms on the fast Big City marathons..

 

I agree with your thinking again.

 

I'm more interested to see what happens post this effort in the big events and the approach that is taken on race day regarding tactics on the day versus trying to run a consistent pacing time and simply beat out the competition running towards a PB! No doubt some psychological barriers will be moved forward through this endeavour!

[Lexx]

I must be honest,my last Comrades I ran was in 2007. So exactly 10years ago. I will jus do as I did back then, run and eat potatoes and bananas. Hate eating chocolates while I run.

[Tubehunter]

I will try the orange with salt, something I haven't thought of before. 

I am going to stick with my normal plan:

Eat every hour, I run with race food and I sip on a gel every 20 min. (Can't stomach a whole gel at a time). I run with Hammer gels, but they are just so expensive. I tried PVM's gel - I didn't like that at all. 

I eat potatoes on the route, try not to drink water at every point. I only drink coke when the going gets tough.

 

At the RAC long run I drank a Super M Choc Flavoured milk at 30km - it was the best!!! 

I will have one again half way at Comrades. 

 

I am a bit concerned about cramping - It is a new thing that I am experiencing while running. I see a big hype about Cramp Out. Has anyone used it? One of my clubmates says it tastes disgusting but it works.

 

These cramp specific supplements are not a get out of jail card. Make sure you do a test run and take one to see what it does to your digestive tract through the end of your run! I would only consider the use of these as a last hoorah effort to prevent a DNF! This is all my own opinion and experience from having been someone who suffered from cramping issues and trying a few different options.

[Stretch]

Oranges with salt are also pure magic at the right time too 

 

 

 

I thought I was the only one that enjoyed oranges with salt..good to hear some fellow orange salters

[Andrew Steer]

These cramp specific supplements are not a get out of jail card. Make sure you do a test run and take one to see what it does to your digestive tract through the end of your run! I would only consider the use of these as a last hoorah effort to prevent a DNF! This is all my own opinion and experience from having been someone who suffered from cramping issues and trying a few different options.

Banana's and Rehidrat for cramps in my view... 

[Stretch]

I must be honest,my last Comrades I ran was in 2007. So exactly 10years ago. I will jus do as I did back then, run and eat potatoes and bananas. Hate eating chocolates while I run.

 

I take a few cut up dried wors sticks and every now and then have a little snack. 

 

Last year my wife met me with a bovril sandwich and a super M at alverstone...was like a 5 star meal by that time

Edited May 5, 2017 by Stretch

[Andrew Steer]

I will try the orange with salt, something I haven't thought of before. 

I am going to stick with my normal plan:

Eat every hour, I run with race food and I sip on a gel every 20 min. (Can't stomach a whole gel at a time). I run with Hammer gels, but they are just so expensive. I tried PVM's gel - I didn't like that at all. 

I eat potatoes on the route, try not to drink water at every point. I only drink coke when the going gets tough.

 

At the RAC long run I drank a Super M Choc Flavoured milk at 30km - it was the best!!! 

I will have one again half way at Comrades. 

 

I am a bit concerned about cramping - It is a new thing that I am experiencing while running. I see a big hype about Cramp Out. Has anyone used it? One of my clubmates says it tastes disgusting but it works.

I'm a huge Super M/Steri Stumpie fan... for after a race. Very brave chucking milk into the race day tummy mix, but if it works it works I guess 

 

First 10km just water, thereafter water coke mix (70/30) at every second water point. I will up the coke portion later on if required.

 

Rehidrate Sachets at 20/40/60/75 km with an extra backup. Two water sachets with each

 

Gu Gels at 30/50/67/80km with an extra two backup. Two water sachets with each.

 

Banana's, potatoes and salty oranges my mainstays from the tables, but depending on what I am sick of etc and what appeals, I will hammer the tables in the later half   Hopefully our club seconds have Biltong again this year - it's very lekker for a change up. And that's about all

 

Crikey that's a lot of gunk going down the gullet 

[Andrew Steer]

Damn you Stretch and Hacc... now I'm trying to work out if a Steri Stumpy on race day is a good idea, having never tried it. Real first world problems 

[Hacc]

Damn you Stretch and Hacc... now I'm trying to work out if a Steri Stumpy on race day is a good idea, having never tried it. Real first world problems 

 I was also skeptical, I took the bottle with me and drank it over 30 minutes or so.

There was an article in the runner's world a couple of months ago about a lady that only uses milk at races. No water and no coke 

[Jurgens Smit]

Hey Guys,

 

So silly question, but what is the least amount of training you can put in for running a half?

I get about max 3 runs in a week, and recently accidentally (i got lost in a foreign area) ran a 10k in training a relatively easy pace 6:16/km.

 

Also, it's a pace I easily sustained for the entire distance, but my HR was a avg of 166 and maxing out at 190 bpm.

 

My runs are maybe max 4 hrs a week and bike training around 11-14(depending on my training block)

[Tubehunter]

Hey Guys,

 

So silly question, but what is the least amount of training you can put in for running a half?

I get about max 3 runs in a week, and recently accidentally (i got lost in a foreign area) ran a 10k in training a relatively easy pace 6:16/km.

 

Also, it's a pace I easily sustained for the entire distance, but my HR was a avg of 166 and maxing out at 190 bpm.

 

My runs are maybe max 4 hrs a week and bike training around 11-14(depending on my training block)

 

When is the half? How long do you have? Do you have any specific goals, or is finishing the main aim? Are you carrying any injuries that could be aggravated by increased running efforts?

[Jurgens Smit]

When is the half? How long do you have? Do you have any specific goals, or is finishing the main aim? Are you carrying any injuries that could be aggravated by increased running efforts?

 

No injuries currently, I have gotten my left achilles injured a whole bunch of times, but the cause has been found and rectified.

 

No major goals, If I can run at my training pace for and finish under 2:15 that would be great. But mainly I'd like to finish well within my capabilities. 

 

there is a half in August I'd like to do with a friend.

Edited May 5, 2017 by Jurgens Smit

[Tubehunter]

In that case. Nothing beats consistency. If you can run 4 plus times a week and keep that up adding some distance to one of the runs each week, there's nothing stopping you from making those goals real.

 

What is your current weekly mileage?