Chris_ Posted October 18, 2019 Share Give Eliud the same shoes from Mr Price that Bongmusa ran and won Comrades in, and he will still break 2 hours. All the negativity is purely sour grapes in my view. Agreed. In that case we cancel all records and going forward only people running in 1960 Adidas whatevers can go for official runs. WTF... Edit: and a string vest, obviously... Edited October 18, 2019 by CBlake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted October 18, 2019 Share Great article https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/opinion/eliud-kipchoge-marathon-record.html shaper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackes Posted October 18, 2019 Share Give Eliud the same shoes from Mr Price that Bongmusa ran and won Comrades in, and he will still break 2 hours. All the negativity is purely sour grapes in my view. Bongmusa runs in fancy Nikes. David Gatebe broke the down record in Mr Price cheapies. Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjommies3 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Bongmusa runs in fancy Nikes. David Gatebe broke the down record in Mr Price cheapies. Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Thanks for the correction. Bongmusa runs in fancy Nikes. David Gatebe broke the down record in Mr Price cheapies. Are they really Mr Price cheapies or just branded to look like them? Shoes, for me a crap lardy runner, make a huge difference. I can even tell when my shoes being the same brand and model have run high or low km's from the feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudsimus Posted October 18, 2019 Share Bongmusa runs in fancy Nikes. David Gatebe broke the down record in Mr Price cheapies.Wich was actually a franken shoe of previous generation Nikes. IceCreamMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackes Posted October 18, 2019 Share Are they really Mr Price cheapies or just branded to look like them? Shoes, for me a crap lardy runner, make a huge difference. I can even tell when my shoes being the same brand and model have run high or low km's from the feel. I am just glad that I am so crappy that I couldn't care less about a R4,000 + carbon plate shoe or not. The amount of money Nike for example spends on marketing surely pays off, because 95%? of these very expensive rides are on the feet of people that will not finish nowhere near a podium! IceCreamMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudsimus Posted October 18, 2019 Share Are they really Mr Price cheapies or just branded to look like them? Shoes, for me a crap lardy runner, make a huge difference. I can even tell when my shoes being the same brand and model have run high or low km's from the feel.It was 100% Maxed. I had some insight into the development of the first three Maxed Marathon shoes. Cheap maybe, but not cheaply made at all. Same factory, Same midsole, outsole than some Nikes. Just different waffle presses used to avoid any lawsuits and customer confusion. b-rad and IceCreamMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguemeister Posted October 18, 2019 Share I am just glad that I am so crappy that I couldn't care less about a R4,000 + carbon plate shoe or not. The amount of money Nike for example spends on marketing surely pays off, because 95%? of these very expensive rides are on the feet of people that will not finish nowhere near a podium!Apparently the amount of people wearing them at Kona and walking was insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted October 18, 2019 Share It was 100% Maxed. I had some insight into the development of the first three Maxed Marathon shoes. Cheap maybe, but not cheaply made at all. Same factory, Same midsole, outsole than some Nikes. Just different waffle presses used to avoid any lawsuits and customer confusion. I hear you, we are getting ripped by the name brands. But i guess thats R&D costs etc. Would make perfect sense for a low cost brand to re use older generation IP. Nothing wrong with them in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted October 18, 2019 Share Apparently the amount of people wearing them at Kona and walking was insane There's a sport that embraces new tech. No-holds-barred bike design, wetsuit material, shoes, trisuits, the lot. And we're only 20 mins faster than 30 years ago. hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_ Posted October 18, 2019 Share There's a sport that embraces new tech. No-holds-barred bike design, wetsuit material, shoes, trisuits, the lot. And we're only 20 mins faster than 30 years ago. hmm funnily enough that 4% Stretch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steer Posted October 18, 2019 Share I've been in the cycling industry for nearly 20yrs now... always been involved in the advertising side in some shape or form, seen more bike ads than I have hub posts.For these two decades, every bike has gotten lighter, faster, stiffer, more aero by anything from 5-20%... and yet, all these years on we're barely all that quicker than 20yrs ago. Marketing - she's a thing of beauty... and we are all suckers Funny enough... these Nike shoes are real innovation, possibly making a real difference - shock horror Stretch and Chris_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackes Posted October 18, 2019 Share Apparently the amount of people wearing them at Kona and walking was insane This is one of the most important criteria when I buy my running shoes, they must be extremely comfortable to walk in for long distances on the other side of 42km's Edited October 18, 2019 by Jackes shaper and Andrew Steer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karnuffel Posted October 18, 2019 Share Give Eliud the same shoes from Mr Price that Bongmusa ran and won Comrades in, and he will still break 2 hours. All the negativity is purely sour grapes in my view. Im pretty sure the shoes does help a bit, but anyone running under 3min/KM for 42KM is a frigging machine. Yes the environment was controlled and yes the shoes are state of the art, but at the end of the day there was still someone filling those shoes, dragging them forward (not that there was any dragging involved). Lastly, not many people can get close to that speed, not even when sprinting to the whitehouse after chowing the vindaloo of justice.... IceCreamMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craai Posted October 18, 2019 Share Im pretty sure the shoes does help a bit, but anyone running under 3min/KM for 5KM is a frigging machine. Yes the environment was controlled and yes the shoes are state of the art, but at the end of the day there was still someone filling those shoes, dragging them forward (not that there was any dragging involved). Lastly, not many people can get close to that speed, not even when sprinting to the whitehouse after chowing the vindaloo of justice.... Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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